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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 9-May-2014 0:15:18
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 9-May-2014 1:06:36
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 9-May-2014 1:39:53
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 9-May-2014 16:23:21
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| @Lou
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/664972-ufo-attacks-taliban-camp-in-afghanistan-video-is-a-hoax/
http://wafflesatnoon.com/ufo-attacking-taliban-video/
Here is a link to the unedited video on youtube uploaded in 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oTjTufJnXI
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 11-May-2014 14:36:31
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| @Lou
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You are delusional now.You are delusional now. |
Do you intend to post any evidence to support your assertion, or are you back to good old Ad-Hominem again?
"...and yes, the lower surface looks exactly like what I saw in 1990..." Actually looks more like something I saw in 1986, what do you think?
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 12:38:21
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| @Lou
Thought you'd like this missed confirmation of a postulated possibility for Dark Matter. https://www.hzdr.de/db/Cms?pNid=99&pOid=41693
Now remember that doesn't mean your guess is right. You still need to bring solid scientific evidence to make it more than a pretty postulate. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 22:07:08
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Hmmm... HADES I sometimes wonder whether they pick the experiment to fit the Acronym. It would be funny if the evidence was in the form of High Energy Recombining Pair Electron Spectrometer, but it never gets discovered because nobody is willing to pay for a HERPES Probe._________________ When in trouble, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 23:03:52
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Hey, for once you posted something useful without coming off like a complete jerk. Congrats. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 23:08:04
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You are delusional now.You are delusional now. |
Do you intend to post any evidence to support your assertion, or are you back to good old Ad-Hominem again?
"...and yes, the lower surface looks exactly like what I saw in 1990..." Actually looks more like something I saw in 1986, what do you think?
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Nice one Wirral Wrong club, I know, but it just seemed appropriate. |
Sure, just keep discounting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave
By the way, can you tell me what 'mass' is again? |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 23:12:19
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BrianK wrote: @Lou
Thought you'd like this missed confirmation of a postulated possibility for Dark Matter. https://www.hzdr.de/db/Cms?pNid=99&pOid=41693
Now remember that doesn't mean your guess is right. You still need to bring solid scientific evidence to make it more than a pretty postulate. |
I didn't miss this. Just busy at work a lot lately. You will see a nimrod ignore it though.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/showbiz/article/james-cameron-mourns-implosion-of-deep-sea-research-vessel Apparently those fools didn't realize that this vessel was so massive that is succumbed to it's own gravity... /sarcasm
Perhaps you missed Post #21 in this thread. If pressure comes in from outside the galaxy, then the outer edges get sped up. Score a -1 for GR and a +1 for push models for 'gravity' as a whole...again, conveniently ignored by a nimrod who keeps asking for evidence...Last edited by Lou on 13-May-2014 at 11:20 PM. Last edited by Lou on 13-May-2014 at 11:13 PM.
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 13-May-2014 23:28:21
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 14-May-2014 9:50:17
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Hey, for once you posted something useful without coming off like a complete jerk. Congrats.
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I wish we could say the same._________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 14-May-2014 18:39:56
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And yet still waiting for you to show same........
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 14-May-2014 18:42:26
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Hmmm... HADES I sometimes wonder whether they pick the experiment to fit the Acronym. It would be funny if the evidence was in the form of High Energy Recombining Pair Electron Spectrometer, but it never gets discovered because nobody is willing to pay for a HERPES Probe. | |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 14-May-2014 18:44:55
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Nope didn't see 21. Did now. Thanks.
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That was where I proved that 'mass' is just the amount of EM energy in a given sphere. Pick a particle, take it's radius and you can compute it's 'mass'. Mass is EM energy. Everything is EM. | To be clear mathematically shown that it should be. There's no experiments yet demonstrating your postulate is accurate. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 15-May-2014 21:12:08
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Nothing there to miss. All you did in that post was repeat your unsupported C.R.A.P. about light balls in a dark place. The fact remains that there are two spheres closer to each other than the moon is to the Earth, emitting huge levels of radiation pressure, and yet they are moving towards each other.
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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=36907&forum=4&start=580&viewmode=flat&order=0#726080 That was where I proved that 'mass' is just the amount of EM energy in a given sphere. Pick a particle, take it's radius and you can compute it's 'mass'. Mass is EM energy. Everything is EM. |
Very impressive. Now do the same calculation for a Neutron. It has a mass approximately 1840 times that of an electron, and no overall electrical charge. Also bear in mind that a Proton has about the same mass as a Neutron, while having an equal, but opposite charge to an electron.
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 16-May-2014 2:19:32
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Nothing there to miss. All you did in that post was repeat your unsupported C.R.A.P. about light balls in a dark place. The fact remains that there are two spheres closer to each other than the moon is to the Earth, emitting huge levels of radiation pressure, and yet they are moving towards each other.
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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=36907&forum=4&start=580&viewmode=flat&order=0#726080 That was where I proved that 'mass' is just the amount of EM energy in a given sphere. Pick a particle, take it's radius and you can compute it's 'mass'. Mass is EM energy. Everything is EM. |
Very impressive. Now do the same calculation for a Neutron. It has a mass approximately 1840 times that of an electron, and no overall electrical charge. Also bear in mind that a Proton has about the same mass as a Neutron, while having an equal, but opposite charge to an electron.
Back to the drawing board Lou. Better luck next time. |
You keep proving your incompetence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_mass This was the normal until everyone bent over backwards to accept Einsteins perpetually flawed theory of general relativity. Funny how that theory left us with a mass-defect in the nucleus and missing mass in the universe...
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 16-May-2014 8:26:51
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You forgot to actually do the math, there. Obviously you would have had a shot at winning people over if you had done the math as requested rather than just throw insults. _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 18-May-2014 17:38:06
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You forgot to actually do the math, there. Obviously you would have had a shot at winning people over if you had done the math as requested rather than just throw insults. |
I throw insults because I have been thrown insults.
As for the math, like I said, "particle mass" is equal to EM energy until everyone bought the lie of General Relativity. The math is in the link. General Relativity has always been broken.
In the link you even see them going down the radiation pressure route to explain some things and then Einstein stepped in with GR.
...And Even Einstein in the end said GR was wrong...and that there is ether.
Look back a few posts where I posted about galactic star formation. That is the opposite assumption of GR. From the radiation pressure model, it makes sense since the pressure comes from the outside and that's why the outside edge of a galaxy can spin "faster than expected" without "dark mass".
The elastic band nature of the cosmological constant (ie they keep changing it to adjust to new evidence that it was wrong) should be enough to tell you it's wrong. It's a exercise in keeping society in the "dark ages" though...
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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4 Posted on 18-May-2014 18:51:46
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I throw insults because I have been thrown insults. |
When, where, and by whom? The first comment I made on the original Nubiru thread was a response to your inaccuracy, while responding to a comment made by tomazkid and throughout this thread the only person requested to "take a break" wasn't me, although I did refrain from posting questions to you that you were not in a position to answer. This was done as an act of courtesy, not an insult.
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As for the math, like I said, "particle mass" is equal to EM energy until everyone bought the lie of General Relativity. The math is in the link. General Relativity has always been broken | If GR was as "broken" as you claim, how did it manage to become accepted? Could it be because it made predictions that the competing hypotheses couldn't match. The luminferous Aether hypothesis made a prediction of detectable fringing in the Michelson-Morley experiment. Not only was the fringing not measured at the levels predicted, it has still never been detected at any levels. As to the maths, while your equations may function on an electron, using the same equations on a neutron with no electrical charge gives an answer of zero mass. This is in direct contradiction of the measured result. This means that either your maths is wrong, or the universe is, and my money is on the fault being your maths.
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In the link you even see them going down the radiation pressure route to explain some things | Yes indeed, they tried it, and it didn't work
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And Even Einstein in the end said GR was wrong...and that there is ether. |
But wasn't it Mrs Einstein that gave us the theory of Relativity? (Your implication, not mine) so why does Alberts opinion count. He also told us that god does not play dice with the universe, but Quantum Mechanics tells us that he not only does play dice, but the dice are loaded. A scientific theory stands or falls on its own merits, and the accuracy of its predictions, not the name of the person who proposed it. And as for Ether, they tried it, and it didn't work
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From the radiation pressure model, it makes sense since | but it totally fails to explain why these are not moving away from each other due to the levels of RP pushing them apart. We can measure the pressure pushing us away from the Sun, and we can calculate what it would be if the sun were only one third of the distance from us that the moon is. We can measure higher levels of radiation pressure on the side of Earth facing the Sun. If gravity were a side effect of RP then planets would cluster at points equidistant from stars rather than orbit them._________________ When in trouble, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. |
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