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Beeblebrox 
Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?
Posted on 5-Sep-2012 15:05:09
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What comes next ? OS 4.2 ? OS 5.0 ? Nothing ? Or can it be, that there is something to buy before christmas ? After five updates I would spent some money to Hyperion I think.. (And maybe, OS4.2 will be the answer to ..everything!)

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Posted on 5-Sep-2012 17:59:06
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@Beeblebrox

I wait for os4.2.

As amigaos will have new gfx system i really hope that we will get a new soundsystem or at least bugfixed and updated AHI with more modern stuff.

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Arko 
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@Beeblebrox

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Beeblebrox wrote:

Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?


Yes, off course there is a roadmap for the whole AmigaOS4 development.

AmigaOS 4.0 (Summer 2001)
AmigaOS4.2 (Winter 2001)
AmigaOS4.5 (Summer 2002)
AmigaOS 5.0 (Winter 2002)

Here is the list of features for AOS4.2:
AmigaOS4.2 will build upon the foundation of AmigaOS4. It is designed to ;

Integrate the Amiga Digital Environment (AmigaDE) into the AmigaOS
make OS4 fully device retargetable, allowing all applications to be able to operate without the need for physically attached older Amiga hardware
Open up access to the new hardware features offered by the zico hardware specification
Convert, reimplement and enhance more of the AmigaOS4.0 68k code to PPC

The feature set for AmigaOS4.2 includes;

AmigaDE integration

AmigaDE hosted directly in the AmigaOS
Personal Java
SHEEP scripting language

PPC-native Audio System

Retargetable Audio system (RTA)
AHI/CAMD drivers for EMU10K1 PCI cards
Multiple Audio Contexts
Advanced MIDI support

System device drivers

USB2.0 OHCP stack
System device drivers - mouse, keyboard, hub

Amiga Device retargeting

Amiga.devices reimplemented as retargetable, removing the requirement for old Amiga hardware to be present

Further conversion of 68k code to native PPC - this will be done by order of contribution to execution performance, to give developers and users the most improvement.

Look here:
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amigaosdev1.html

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Sounds so

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@Arko

And don't forget this one:

originally there was new AmigaONE accelerator card for A1200, A4000 its was instructed as foundation for AmigaOS.

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amy1press.html

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@djrikki,
Not sure what you mean by "gay response" but if you had a newer roadmap I assume you would have posted it or a link to it. The fact is that there is no newer roadmap, and neither Amiga Inc. nor Hyperion have ever officially stated that the one Arko linked has changed. Until they do it's safe to assume that the information is still accurate.

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WolfToTheMoon 
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@Arko

If they managed even 1/3 of that they would have had atleast 10 times more users now... sadly, it took them too long to do OS4 and the people just drifted away.

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sundown 
Re: Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?
Posted on 5-Sep-2012 21:34:34
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@Beeblebrox

There is a road map for 4.2 in place, but NDA will stop anyone from posting it in public. I would wait for info from Amiwest to see what info comes out.


@Arko & jorkany

You 2 are known trolls, you both take real info & twist it around, both of you hate everything about OS4 development. I'm quite sure that if the road map for 4.2 was made public, you 2 would ignore it & continue to troll your BS. Now run along before a house falls on you...

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Jupp3 
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@djrikki

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That roadmap might not be very accurate, but that's pretty much the only public roadmap we have!

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wawa 
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@djrikki

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at least it is some response, while i dont see anyone posting anything more accurate, i hope you are not homophob, are you?

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Zylesea 
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@djrikki

Quote:

djrikki wrote:
@Arko

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Telling response by you...

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@Zylesea

How so?

He just posted an irrelevant roadmap from 10+ years ago from Amiga Inc. who don't even own/control the Amiga's original operating system anymore.

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wajdy 
Re: Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?
Posted on 5-Sep-2012 22:39:53
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@Beeblebrox

Hyperion does not show their Roadmap to public, this might ease pressure on them and let Amigans enjoy the current breed of Amiga NG.

Waj

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Zylesea 
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@djrikki

Well, thanks for explaining that you dislike Arko's posting. And you wrote it's a "gay response". I think that choice of words tells a lot about you. Unfortunately no positive things though...

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@Zylesea

All it says about him is that he's trying to use the language of teenagers to make himself feel younger. Amongst English teenagers at least (possibly more wide spread) the term "gay" has gone through another transformation and no longer means always homosexual as such. I read something about it on the bbc website somewhere but don;t ask me for a link, my memories not not that good..... (not being a teenager anymore)



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Darrin 
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Posted on 5-Sep-2012 23:30:17
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OK folks, calm down please.

Pointing out a very old roadmap isn't really trolling, and I wouldn't mind seeing an updated road map. I can also live without one too, so it does make me wonder why non-OS4 users care so much...

While calling something "gay" might be modern terminology, it is also offensive to the LGB community. I don't know if we have any lesbian, gay or bi members here and I don't particularly need to know, but on the off chance that we do please refrain from using that phrase.

Back on topic please and remember, no trolling and no personal attacks.

Thank you.

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ssolie 
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Posted on 5-Sep-2012 23:33:27
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@Beeblebrox
I listed a bunch of features last year at AmiWest 2011. Ben Hermans also said what he wanted to see in his AmiWest presentation (e.g. Gallium3D, multi-core support, etc.).

My plan is to keep releasing Amiga operating system updates (i.e. bug fixes and free bonus features) until 4.2 is ready to ship. I believe this is what customers really want. I think customers would rather have working software than yet another promise. Finally, I think customers would rather be enjoying their systems than discussing what might be.

If you'd like to discuss this in person please consider attending AmiWest 2012. We do talk business (away from cameras) and we always have a lot of fun as well.

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Darrin 
Re: Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?
Posted on 5-Sep-2012 23:39:30
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@ssolie

I think that's a good reply. Roadmaps are guessing games at the end of the day and actual updates are far more interesting than speculation.

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ssolie 
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Pointing out a very old roadmap isn't really trolling, and I wouldn't mind seeing an updated road map. I can also live without one too, so it does make me wonder why non-OS4 users care so much...

There is more up to date information available. There were even comments about that information made by the very same people that pretended it doesn't exist. However, it is easier to pretend it doesn't exist and get a good jab in at something you hate at the same time. Jolly good fun for all.

Sorry, done ranting for now.

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