Seems many people are angry about the estimated price of the AmigaOne X1000. Lots of unnecessary noise was generated on the forums.

Now it is your chance to vote/comment at what price you will buy the AmigaOne X1000?

As usual I am asking politely, the people who are not going to buy the machine whatever the price to not post. AROS people, MorphOS fans and pro X86 dudes - please don't ruin my thread.

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@drHirudo

Very bad range of options because we ALL know it will cost between 1000 and 1999. But one is DOUBLE of the other so it should be a wide range of options between those. Pointless poll.

Talking about the real price, I really hoped for 1200-1300 ¤ at the most. I still hope they give the option to buy the spare board. I very much prefer it.

I accept that it is more expensive to get something special. It is not cheap to develope for a small niche market. I also accept that it is not that easy as it was in the times of the Pegasos or Amiga Ones to buy a suitable PPC-processor. So I would have accepted something about 1000 EUR for a good and fast motherboard, maybe more, depending to the rest of the hardware. That's what I have to pay for a really good gamer's PC. 1500 EUR is very close to the absolute limit, that's already more than what I've paid for my Intel i/ PC with Geforce 275 and a 21.5 inch 3D monitor. More than 1500 EUR is absolutely insane for a computer which can't even substitute a PC or Mac because the necessary every day software ist not available. Don't tell me to use Linux for that applications, I don't need a 1500 EUR computer to run Linux.

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@drHirudo

I voted 1k - 2k range. I have put aside a bit more. Economy, inflation, shipping,
warranties, etc.. Could be more, could be less.

@DrZarkov

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More than 1500 EUR is absolutely insane for a computer which can't even substitute a PC or Mac because the necessary every day software ist not available. Don't tell me to use Linux for that applications, I don't need a 1500 EUR computer to run Linux.

What's insane is to continue to invest in and use Windows as you main home computer if you don't actually ENJOY using it!!!

I believe the Sams and X1000 will become adequate substitutes for the majority of internet tasks for which home computers are now used. They will also allow access to specialist Amiga programs and a more creative/relaxing/enjoyable way of creating new content.

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If i could I would buy an AmigaONE X1000, but its sounding more and more likely it will be more than my budget can allow for a hobby machine. Its a real shame because I like what Trevor and A-eon are trying to do, push the Amiga forward to the next step and give the users a high end computer and create a end user complete computer not just another hobby motherboard. I really hope them success what I hate is all the negativity towards them for trying and for pricing it outside peoples budget.

I think no matter what happens the X1000 has given users more hope about the future of the OS and created a bit more momentum for our platform, and more interest who can say that's a bad thing.

My personal budget is around £1000, so it most likely going to be a Sam460ex for me but who know what happens over this year, it should be very interesting, which is something I would hardly say about the Amiga world just a year ago.

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@BigD

It is insane, as I would have to loan that money from the bank plus the money needed for the divorce. I don't think my wife will understand that I buy a computer for about 2000 EUR which does not even have a reasonable office suite and a workable browser only in alpha or beta stadium, and absolutely no killer application which would justify that investement if a PC for about 500 EUR would fulfill all my needs. If my name was Rothschild I would buy the X1000, of course. But unfortunally I have to work for my money...

@DrZarkov

Different people will have different acceptable price ranges, and it's not all got to do with what the comparative price is for another platform. A lot of it comes down to what you have to sacrifice for that money. If the alternative is borrowing the money, then I'd have been hesitant too.

But for me at least, it doesn't matter that it's more expensive than a PC or even Mac. I already have a big Linux server and a few laptops (most of which are my wife's, for the record...) and when I spend money on another machine it's not the performance that matters. What I'm paying for is the experience.

So I could spend 1500 Euro or 2000 Euro or whatever it ends up costing on something else, or I can spend it on a machine that will make my daily computer use more pleasant.

What it boils down to is how much less stress and more fun over a period of several years is worth to me. If the machine survives 5 years, even 2000 euro is "only" 400 a year for that extra enjoyment.

This type of thinking is incidentally why Apple has margins that are 2-3 times those of most other PC manufacturers - some people are willing to pay extra to avoid the aggravation of computers and OS's they don't like to work with.

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@DrZarkov

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It is insane, as I would have to loan that money from the bank plus the money needed for the divorce.

Buy a Sam then

If you are not interested in Amiga hardware in any way, state or form then why are you on AmigaWorld?

This isn't 'PC World The Forum' it's AmigaWorld! The X1000 exists will be launched and is the 1st Amiga that has even approached main stream specs in a long time. If you don't/can't get one then wait for a second hand one or sign up as a beta tester and get a cheap motherboard and building kit! If you are just not interested then just use AROS!!!

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@drHirudo

For about 600 EUR I would consider it interesting. As long a sthe price stays above, I guess i am not interested (other solutions offer way better price/performsnce ratio then). But for 600 EUR with a PA6T i would be seriously intersted (as long as a good Linux support is included and AOS4 supports both cores).

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@BigD

Sorry, but now you become silly! I love the X1000 hardware and I love AmigaOS 4, but it is simply not affordable for me. I will not buy it at any costs! So it seems that it will become only a Sam460 for me.

@drHirudo
Seems like amigans are richer than i assumed judging by the poll.

@DrZarkov

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So it seems that it will become only a Sam460

From seeing it in action on Saturday you will not be disappointed I think the 460ex is the best compromise also!

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: @DrZarkov Quote: It is insane, as I would have to loan that money from the bank plus the money needed for the divorce. Buy a Sam then If you are not interested in Amiga hardware in any way, state or form then why are you on AmigaWorld? This isn't 'PC World The Forum' it's AmigaWorld! The X1000 exists will be launched and is the 1st Amiga that has even approached main stream specs in a long time. If you don't/can't get one then wait for a second hand one or sign up as a beta tester and get a cheap motherboard and building kit! If you are just not interested then just use AROS!!!

Did it ever occur to you that a Sam might not meet his demands? Some people might want to use a computer for more than just simple web browsing, mp3 and similar. I myself for example would like some Amiga system that could at least be used for multimedia including HD videos. The Sam just simply does not meet the expectations i have for a "modern" AmigaNG system.

Also pretty silly to say that he shoudl stay away considering there are many other flavours of Amiga including classic, emulation, mos and aros.
This forum is open for all this topics.

@Tomas

My quote was if you're not interested in Amiga hardware then just use AROS!

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If you are just not interested then just use AROS!!!

I don't think I told him to go away, I was just trying to guage his interest! He says he might be able to afford a Sam and I encouraged him that it looked good! Nothing wrong with that surely!

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@Tomas

Yes, I am suprised by the results as well. But it is only a poll, not a money out of the pocket. But this poll shows that it is only a minority of a small group with very vocal people who are whining about the price.

The appearance of the AmigaOne X1000 is very good for the Amiga in general. Now people know there is powerful hardware, so if they want to spend some good money for their hobby, they can buy Amiga X1000. If they want just to tinker with AmigaOS 4, and not be power users, there are the SAM options.

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I will pay the maximum ¤ 1531.88 at current exchange rates for X1000, and max ¤ 574.45 for a complete SAM460 system. And this as an end user.

@Tomas
The 460EX will be quite fast, good banwidth, L2 CPU Cache and PCI-E will make a big impact.

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HD Video
I know it is something for way later, but some form of HD video acceleration in HW, is still possible. Did a search on Wikipedia and found out it can be achieved 2 ways, one involves UVD2 support (they are trying to crank it on Linux, so who knows) the other is to program something based on shaders (this would need a Mesa port).
Most PCs cannot play HD video without HW acceleration, so the Sam is not alone there.

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@DAX

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DAX wrote: @Tomas The 460EX will be quite fast, good banwidth, ...

Banwidth?
Who is going to be banned?

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