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Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:00:40
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What the "#$%#"#$#"$"#$$%/%&/$%"#!!!!!! ????

Removed link /tomazkid

Anyone knows?

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:03:29
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@eXec

Direct links = not ok.

Though, feel free to discuss.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:05:42
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@eXec

and here is more info from a piratebay near you.....

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Amiga OS 4.0 Install CD for Mac Mini G4 (Moana Loader)
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This CD will allow you to boot the Amiga OS 4.0 kernel and run the Amiga OS 4.0 installer. I've yet to try installing this on my hard drive.

The knows issues with the Moana loader are:

* Displays message that USB stack has not been loaded (USB keyboards and mice work)
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini built-in Ethernet
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini AirPort Extreme card
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini Bluetooth device
* Probably a lot more I've not come across yet!

Testing has been performed with a Mac Mini G4 with the following specs:

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: PowerMac10,2
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Processor Speed: 1.5 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.4f0

This CD may/may not work on other Mac Mini G4 models.


Instructions for booting:
-------------------------

1) Boot into Open Firmware (Hold down "Option" "Command" "o" "f" when powering on)
2) First time users will only need to enter the following command once:
setenv boota-device cd:
3) Begin loading the OS 4.0 kernel/kickstart by typing in the following command:
boot cd:slb_v2
4) Select option "1. Amiga OS 4.x/MM_Full_silent_USB"
5) Press "Enter" at the "Installed mem: 1024 mega bega" prompt
6) Press "Enter" at the "About to build thecopy of the OF tree; Code start at 0x01800000; press any key" prompt
7) Press "Enter" at the "All init done; about to kill OF and start ExecSG; press any key" prompt

At this point, the screen should turn black and after a few seconds, the CD drive will spin up.

Eventually you'll see an AmigaDOS window displaying the message "USB stack not loaded". Oddly enough, USB keyboards and mice seem to work.

7) You'll be greeted with a "Welcome to the Amiga OS 4.0 Install CD" window, click on "Proceed"
8) On the next window, select your language, country and time zone and click "Use"
9) A window will pop up and will ask how the system time should be updated. Click on "System"
10) A window will pop up with the message "Your system time has been updated". Click on "OK"
11) Shortly after, a window will appear to advise you that you must select a keyboard. Click "OK"
12) Select your keyboard and click "Use"

If the start up appears to stall between steps 10 and 11, press "Ctrl C" and you should see a "WAIT: ***Break" message appear. The installer will now continue.

Good luck!



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Amiga OS 4.0 (w/July 2007 Updates) Install CD for Mac Mini G4 (Moana Loader)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

This CD will allow you to boot the Amiga OS 4.0 kernel and run the Amiga OS 4.0 installer.

The knows issues with the Moana loader are:

* Displays image that USB stack has not been loaded (USB keyboards and mice work)
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini built-in Ethernet
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini AirPort Extreme card
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini Bluetooth device
* Probably a lot more I've not come across yet!

Testing has been performed with a Mac Mini G4 with the following specs:

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: PowerMac10,2
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Processor Speed: 1.5 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.4f0

This CD may/may not work on other Mac Mini G4 models.


Instructions for booting:
-------------------------

1) Boot into Open Firmware (Hold down "Option" "Command" "o" "f" when powering on)
2) First time users will only need to enter the following command once:
setenv boota-device cd:
3) Begin loading the OS 4.0 kernel/kickstart by typing in the following command:
boot cd:slb_v2
4) Select either option:
"1. Amiga OS 4.x: CDROM MM_Full_silent_USB" - for Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz/64MB Radeon models
"2. Amiga OS 4.x: CDROM MM_Full_silent_USB_ATI_safe" - for all other Mac Mini G4 models
5) Press "Enter" at the "Installed mem: 1024 mega bega" prompt
6) Press "Enter" at the "About to build the copy of the OF tree; Code start at 0x01800000; press any key" prompt
7) Press "Enter" at the "All init done; about to kill OF and start ExecSG; press any key" prompt

At this point, the screen should turn black and after a few seconds, the CD drive will spin up.

Eventually you'll see an AmigaDOS window displaying the message "USB stack not running.". Oddly enough, USB keyboards and mice seem to work.

7) You'll be greeted with a "Welcome to the Amiga OS 4.0 Install CD" window, click on "Proceed"
8) On the next window, select your language, country and time zone and click "Use"
9) A window will pop up and will ask how the system time should be updated. Click on "System"
10) A window will pop up with the message "Your system time has been updated". Click on "OK"
11) Shortly after, a window will appear to advise you that you must select a keyboard. Click "OK"
12) Select your keyboard and click "Use"

If the start up appears to stall between steps 10 and 11, press "Ctrl C" and you should see a "WAIT: ***Break" message appear. The installer will now continue.

Good luck!



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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:06:20
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@tomazkid

Can't but help feel I've missed the party though...

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:14:55
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@Stephen_Robinson

here is an older thread on the subject, and there are others threads about this as well.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:18:15
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@tomazkid
It was more a comment on the link being removed to be honest.

Dosn't intrest me that much to be honest, but to the Millions out there without OS4,,,

Wonder how OS4,1 would work? Better or worse?

you know, just sayin'...

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:22:05
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@Stephen_Robinson

It's a highly incomplete and abandoned project. End story.

#6

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:36:38
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@number6

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It's a highly incomplete and abandoned project.


Why was it abandoned? Far more profit in selling OS4 to milions of Macs rather than hundreds of custom teron boards! It's a no brainer! I can see why the litigation might have stopped development but other than that, why not?

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:40:48
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@BigD

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I can see why the litigation might have stopped development


You answered your own question.

You can read more about the 2 separate Mac projects:
here in #226

Follow the links in the post for further info.

#6

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:46:58
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@BigD

You said it. No brainer.

That's Bill McEwen for you. No brain.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:47:10
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@number6

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Far more profit in selling OS4 to milions of Macs

That's why it was stopped.

No seriously.

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Posted on 9-Sep-2008 23:54:09
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@meet.mrnrg

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That's why it was stopped.


Yes, that is the prevalent theory concerning all the killed projects.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 10-Sep-2008 2:53:04
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@number6

Quote:
You can read more about the 2 separate Mac projects:


only 2, thought there was 3 or maybe thats a blue project?

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 10-Sep-2008 14:08:48
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Confirmed Kill... Mac Mini is now dead... The mouse moved swiftly and killed the cat.

Witch one's first, the chicken or the egg?

Only thing is, if you want to eat roast dinner you better buy the chicken ready made.

I'm placing my Order for Amiga OS 4.1 upgrade regardless. I like progress. I can wait for SAM 440EP release also.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 10-Sep-2008 15:52:04
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@meet.mrnrg

It would be a "miracle" if the court case finally resolved this. I can then finally own a "new" Amiga with a decent OS, even if it still fits into the "hobbyists" domain at this stage.

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Re: Amiga-OS-4-0-Install-CD-for-Mac-Mini-G4-Moana-Loader
Posted on 10-Sep-2008 16:52:29
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@eXec & d0c

Many thanks for publishing the info!!!

This will help and encourage others to buy a mini and order os4.

Hope we can have soon some news about how 4.1 upgrade works on it. If just the sound issue was fixed...

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@vision

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Hope we can have soon some news about how 4.1 upgrade works on it. If just the sound issue was fixed...


Unless AV is working on an OS4.1 version of Moana and it gets leaked then you are out of luck.

Last edited by Rob on 10-Sep-2008 at 05:18 PM.

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Quote:

meet.mrnrg wrote:
@number6

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Far more profit in selling OS4 to milions of Macs

That's why it was stopped.

No seriously.



McEwen is retarded. Amiga Inc exist only fro scams. End of story.

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>It's a highly incomplete and abandoned project. End story.
#6

what does it mean ?

is now confirm from several well known users that OS4.0 realy work on a mac mini stable and usable ?

for example how can eject the CD on mac mini with OS4 ?.

this message so short after OS4.1 release....
I hope that is no marketing trick that users believe that OS4.1 run on mac mini, buy a mac mini and of course OS4.1.and nobody get it running.

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Can you hear yourself? Stop talking... no really... stop!

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