@kolla

Yeah for sure but it is speculating now, especially since they dodged the question :D And you need the battery then ...

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We hope it will be a polished experience for Amiga users.

It looks really good. Looking forward to using it.

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Thanks! Here is a sneak preview of AmiBench with its new Dock, Calendar and Clock.

@agami

The Clock holds it time and is correct on every boot.



We hope this will be the ultimate 68K distribution.

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Who the hell owns the rights to AmigaOS / Workbench now

Amiga Corp/Cloanto own Amiga OS but Hyperion have exclusive right new versions using the the 3.1 source code. The current dispute is over whether Hyperion have the right to develop and sell updated versions of 3.x

@amigakit

Getting more interesting, hope we get to play around with this at Kickstart02 uk Amiga show.

Really please to see Arm support slowly moving into the OS and making the Os kinda more aware it’s on an emulated platform is something I wish was more. I mean why not take advantage of what’s there.

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@amigang

Yes we will have stock to sell at Kickstart 02 show.


Here is a small part from the AmiBench section of the printed manual that comes supplied with the A600GS:

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Your target customers are people who never used Amiga before?

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@g01df1sh

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g01df1sh wrote: Who the hell owns the rights to AmigaOS / Workbench now? Why are loads of third party companies doing more AMiga stuff than who ever owns the original name / trade mark now. Chuck the towel in and give it to one of the Amiga companies left actually doing stuff for the Amiga community. Amibench should become workbench4

Port the whole "System 54" to A600GS. Has Trevor Dickinson offered to buy Cloanto?

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@g01df1sh

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Amibench should become workbench4

Why? All I have seen is fluff, NOTHING about what it can actually DO.

I don't spend my time with Amiga just looking at pretty backdrops and icons, do you?

Workbench v45+ (OS3.9 onwards) has AREXX interface, lets you dynamically assign hotkeys and build menus, it also has cross-location icon select, supports multi-select in menus, built in metadata editor... and lots more - all in one library. But is single threaded (all-though with hooks to compensate for that, using f.ex. ASyncWB)

SCALOS is modular, multi threaded, MUI based, lets you configure menus, hotkeys etc, has contextual popup menus for file types etc.

DOpus Magellan is modular, multi threaded, lets you configure menus, hotkeys, docks, "start menus", context menus, file types, fully configurable listers that can be used for just about anything, very rich AREXX interface etc etc.

Amibench gives you ARM accelerated pretty backdrops and icons.

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DOpus Magellan is modular, multi threaded, lets you configure menus, hotkeys, docks, "start menus", context menus, file types, fully configurable listers that can be used for just about anything, very rich AREXX interface etc etc.

See message 152 in

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=44957&forum=8&start=140&151

DOpus running on the A600GS,
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@RobertB

What does ancient DOpus 4 have to do with Amibench?

I specifically wrote about DOpus Magellan because it offers a full desktop, Workbench replacement if you like - just like Amibench.

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I would like to see Ambient ported over 68k, perhaps it's just me, but still

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@kolla

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Your target customers are people who never used Amiga before?

Considering that OS4 hardware with the associated high price tag has managed pick a few user with no prior Amiga experience. It's not unreasonable to expect that this lower cost product will also sell to people who've never used an Amiga.
There were also plenty of people who used their Amiga purely as a floppy based games machine but might end up using the OS second time around.

A guide to the basics makes the OS more accessible om such cases.

@amigakit

it is looking good. But ultimate distribution is a little difficult. In which sense? As important as icons are fuctionality, at least to me. What is included except the few programs mentioned?

There we have heared not much yet and no videos.

But it could be perhaps a nice starting point for beginners.

Will it be exklusive on A600GS or also useable seperate as a download?

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@RobertB

as Kolla already wrote, it was DOpus4 as filemanager. But Megallan can also be used as full desktop, that is very different

@OlafS25

We have been working on a lot of the new BOOPSI gadgets that are missing from OS3 such as Toolbar Gadget, Clock Gadget, Shared Image Class, ListViewer and Tabbed Gadget Class.

These new classes are included in the SDK drawer on the A600GS for other developers to take advantage of. We also are porting programs across which uses these classes- mostly from the Enhancer Software on OS4:

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Who would wish to use BOOPSI classes that are only available on your particular hardware? Or will developers be able to publish those classes along with their software on Aminet?

Or are you trying to build an Apple style "walled garden" while standing on shoulders of non-BSD open source software?

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Or are you trying to build an Apple style "walled garden" while standing on shoulders of non-BSD open source software?

That would be pretty ironic indeed

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@kolla

if the classes are only available as part of enhancer, developers simply will not use them. Except of course their own software. That will also limit the software to enhancer. It is a kind of copy protection then. But it would limit the market for them.