@Seiya

Cyborg is a key developer at the AmigaOS project.

@Spectre660

I do not need to explain why they (Hyperion) should be careful with promises or "plans". Assuming people buy Tabor and there is only the slow FPU emulation and the fast one needs a long time or is not possible at all whyever (not uncommon in complex software) or is not compatible enough customers will be very disappointed and another round of Hyperion bashing. I like Cyborgs style, honest explanations. The others should take over that style too. Just my 2 cents.

@OlafS25

someone hiding the truth behind the NDA or similar

This is a serious matter and the community must be aware of the state of development at any time.

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It is the expression of a plan. Plans do not not always work though.

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@Spectre660

how can he say that if it not exists and is only idea or planning? Software development is complex, you never know what can happen or if everything works like you hope.

@Zylesea

Will is future tense so indicates a future event.


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Zylesea wrote: @OlafS25 Quote: OlafS25 wrote: @Zylesea yes http://www.os4welt.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1670&sid=e8e8529b3c9dbec9f6e0cd8e02735199&start=10 FPU emulation is slow and not tested. They have plans for a better one later. Thanks. Well intersting in that regard what HyperinMP wrote above. Crystalball in Leuwen? Quote: HyperionMP wrote: Emulation of FPU instructions will be handled transparently without significant impact on performance. So no need to either recompile the OS (the kernel is obviously always specific for a certain CPU) or any applications.

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@Zylesea

in just 2 more weeks of course

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @Zylesea yes http://www.os4welt.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1670&sid=e8e8529b3c9dbec9f6e0cd8e02735199&start=10 FPU emulation is slow and not tested. They have plans for a better one later.

Thanks.
Well intersting in that regard what HyperinMP wrote above. Crystalball in Leuwen?

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HyperionMP wrote: Emulation of FPU instructions will be handled transparently without significant impact on performance. So no need to either recompile the OS (the kernel is obviously always specific for a certain CPU) or any applications.

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@wawa

I trust Cyborg there more than the others...

If true expecially the FPU part is embarrassing... they claimed no problem, compatible and fast

@OlafS25

seems again that even within the os4 team contradicting informations are being distributed. reminds a bit the situation with netbook. at least today there is apparently a decent person to clarify the stuff a bit, as he did with the sdk headers affair.

@Zylesea

yes

http://www.os4welt.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1670&sid=e8e8529b3c9dbec9f6e0cd8e02735199&start=10

FPU emulation is slow and not tested. They have plans for a better one later.

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@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @OlafS25 one news... despite different rumours AmigaOS is still not running on Tabor

Got a source for that?

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@OlafS25

one news... despite different rumours AmigaOS is still not running on Tabor

@Yasu

that there is a market for 500 X5000 is also surprising to me. And regarding Tabor we will see...

the second core is unused for unforeseeable time. And roadmap after 4.2 ready in just 4 more weeks

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@Gregor

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You forgot from your list: 4 people having only CS PPC and still struggling bravely with it's 128MB! Tabor will be a HUGE improvement in all respect to them (as would be almost anything!). And what is the best, you can probably fund it just by selling your CS PPC.

I bet most of them want to keep using their classic machines first and foremost.

And from what I can see from this thread, a lot of people are category 1; people who will upgrade regardless. That is fine and all since new hardware is fun, but I doubt they represent the vast majority.

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@Lazi

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Lazi wrote: @Yasu Quote: Like I said, maybe they have found another market on the side? Maybe MorphOS?

I doubt it.

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Lazi wrote: @Yasu Quote: Like I said, maybe they have found another market on the side? Maybe MorphOS?

No. The board is knwn to the MorphOS team since a while and has not been considered as a viable MorphOS target yet. The incompatible FPU is a major stopper and there's no urgend need for this board for MorphOS and development resources are better spend elsewhere. There's plenty other hardware supported already (many G4/G5 Macs, Pegasos1+2, Efika5200B, Sam460, X5000).

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@Yasu wrote: Considering that neither the SAM:s nor Tabor are powerhouses I doubt people will upgrade to get slightly faster, but still slow, hardware. More likely the buyers will be people who 1, buys everything anyway, 2, people who thought the SAM 460 was just a little too expensive and 3, people whos hardware is broken or has become flaky. Unless of course the board is dirt cheap (like 100€ cheap).

You forgot from your list: 4 people having only CS PPC and still struggling bravely with it's 128MB! Tabor will be a HUGE improvement in all respect to them (as would be almost anything!). And what is the best, you can probably fund it just by selling your CS PPC.

@Yasu

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Like I said, maybe they have found another market on the side?

Maybe MorphOS?

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The board in the system I saw here at Amiwest looked very good. Sure OS4.1 isnt running on it yet but give it time. I think you will all be quite impressed with it. Its clean and very well thought out from what I can see.

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