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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 29-Jun-2014 20:23:11
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Why is the "Max. Partition Size" shown as 2TB to 128TB?
Seems any Max Size Partition should be a fixed number, not a range of 126TB in size and it also does not make sense to have a minimum partition size of 2TB and a maximum partition size of 128TB.
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It depends on the size of the blocks. The maximimum size is afixed number of blocks, but the blocksize may vary from 512 to 32768
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 29-Jun-2014 20:27:17
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i think that's a typo. if i recall correctly FFS supports a maximum partition size of 2GB while FFS2 supports a maximum partition size of 128GB. in any case, like you, i wouldn't recommend anything but a tiny FFS partition on which to store the bootloader.
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 29-Jun-2014 21:52:07
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 30-Jun-2014 19:35:14
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| No offence as having a quick XE but thinking this pc should go away as too slow. Installing MSE again and now it works. A few Viruses etc.
The idea is just we don't have any Trojans so that can be put off?
Also there are not too many programs. That could be a good path to have only good knowing ones as the pc has a million for one purpose and I'm out.
In the Nemoboard You can ask eon support if not in the Software, then the updates if Rollback works or as suggested with the cd taking all away one by one is the best method. Again to work, Sorry as missed any points as not reading all posts and ideas.
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 30-Jun-2014 22:01:46
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Vox will come to my place after this weekend so we will try to reinstall AmgaOS (and Linux) again, from scratch. This 2tb disk is default Hd that came with Vox's Amiga pack, but Vox repartitioned it because Linux partitions... Also my Sam is reformatted (again because his use of Linux) so all good configurations are "lost"...
If we cant do anything with speeding-up system, I will buy small SSD and there install AmigaOS...
Also I heard that Vox is banned here. Strange decision (!?) Maybe it will be good to unban and let him write posts. _________________ nykk | deetronic.rs | youtube.com/djnykk | gfx.river | mamavolibebu.com |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 30-Jun-2014 22:05:07
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Copy/Pasted Message from vox:
Mod's note: NO... Vox is banned from the site, period. That means he can't have his friends posting things on his behalf. You've ignored repeated attempts from moderators to remove this, so, I'm doing it for you, as you 'don't have time'. So, enjoy your holiday, where you'll now have LOADS of time. Regards, Yo Last edited by Yo on 09-Jul-2014 at 01:10 AM.
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 1-Jul-2014 0:32:56
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| That's nice. Please come along update 7 and maybe 4.2 is the solution?
Buying it if it works in the XE.
The above message reminds me as people are from different countries and I got a bill of 400€ as we spoke of 200 from price in the phone. Two pieces of things for the avatar car=400. Okay then.. These hobbies come expensive.
In own language but different side of the country so missunderstandings happen here even more probably. I got banned too from different humour as it is.
Trying to keep the humour away then;)
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Hoping is the best I can do. Donating something but Hyperion is too silent now. Maybe they are just so busy to read my xx, many are waiting;)
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 1-Jul-2014 4:13:52
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broadblues wrote: @amigadave It depends on the size of the blocks. The maximimum size is afixed number of blocks, but the blocksize may vary from 512 to 32768
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Maybe if I had thought about it long enough, I could have figured out that answer on my own. Thanks for that tidbit of info and clearing up my confusion of why the answer was not a fixed number.
Now I am wondering if most, or all file systems use a fixed number of blocks with variable block sizes available, which would make them also have a range of Max Partition Size? _________________ Amiga! The computer that inspired so many, to accomplish so much, but has ended up in the hands of . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 2-Jul-2014 23:09:40
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Okay - today I've bought lowest size - Kingston 60GB SSD - standard connections - and during next week Vox will come to me and we will connect, format & reinstall AmigaOS + Linux system...
This is the easiest thing to do... I suppose... _________________ nykk | deetronic.rs | youtube.com/djnykk | gfx.river | mamavolibebu.com |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 3-Jul-2014 6:25:16
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 3-Jul-2014 6:34:25
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"This is the easiest thing to do"
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I'll do similar trick for my SAM one day. Hoping to have two bootable partitions then on two separate HDD. (+one boot to show, another to use) _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 3-Jul-2014 9:28:00
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0: I don't understand. What has a Voodoo VGA card got to do with a film and religious cults? But since you can't answer why am I asking? Is this on purpose? Never mind.
1: OS in good state. Yes I never let a Linux installer go wild on my HD. It likely doesn't know what is on the drive and thinks an RDB is free space.
2: SFS is in system, no need to source elsewhere. Easiest way to make an update boot CD is to use AmiDVD,, burn Workbench as source on the fly, marked as bootable.
3: AFAIK FUSE needs an MBR partitioned media and only mounts removable media. So you can't exactly use it on a normal Amiga HD unless you can make up a mount list to stick in DOSDrivers if that can work.
You can setup a FFS1 partition to share with Linux. I've also read there is a beta SFS filesystem but found no PPC packages. Only source which I gave up trying to compile. Annoying kernel modules thing that needs specific kernel version to compile with and run on. MoL all over again, I don't have months to spend trying to compile yet another program that won't work. |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 3-Jul-2014 10:19:59
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Be sure to back up the current Workbench. Either to another Amiga partition or to CDR/W. Even if it's only a fairly clean install. You could even clone it to the new SSD after installing the drive in the system.
While it may be tempting to actually reinstall and then apply all the updates I see no need and you'll be doing it all day! First you have to install the OS. Then you have to apply the update. Then you have to setup the user and password. Then you have to run the updater, update components and eventually fully reboot. Then you fully reboot and run the updater again until you need to fully reboot again. Then you keep going until nothing is found. On top of that the update server can be fairly slow even for small files. Well either way good luck!
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 3-Jul-2014 13:36:13
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Fuse does work with the mountlist. I use a NTFS partition to share between AmigaOS 4.1 and Linux.
FileSystem = L:NTFileSystem3G Device = sii3114ide.device Unit = 3 BlockSize = 512 Surfaces = 3 SectorsPerBlock = 2 BlocksPerTrack = 16 Reserved = 2 PreAlloc = 0 Interleave = 0 MaxTransfer = 0x7FFFFFFF Mask = 0xFFFFFFFE LowCyl = 15325135 HighCyl = 17509647 Buffers = 600 BufMemType = 1 StackSize = 16384 Priority = 0 GlobVec = -1 DosType = 0x4E544653 Activate = 1 Mount = 1 /* Bootable = FALSE */
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3: AFAIK FUSE needs an MBR partitioned media and only mounts removable media. So you can't exactly use it on a normal Amiga HD unless you can make up a mount list to stick in DOSDrivers if that can work.
You can setup a FFS1 partition to share with Linux. I've also read there is a beta SFS filesystem but found no PPC packages. Only source which I gave up trying to compile. Annoying kernel modules thing that needs specific kernel version to compile with and run on. MoL all over again, I don't have months to spend trying to compile yet another program that won't work. |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 4-Jul-2014 11:27:28
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That's good to know. Thanks. I''m think ti would be good if we had an AutoMounter tool. That we could run at startup to mount selected partitions.
BTW is there an easier way of adding a volume to Linux than needing to figure out an fstab entry? Less complicated than a mount list but still when the system can figure out technical details and mount one itself it gets a bit old. |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 4-Jul-2014 11:33:42
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 4-Jul-2014 11:41:46
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That's good to know. Thanks. I''m think ti would be good if we had an AutoMounter tool. That we could run at startup to mount selected partitions.
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I'm not sure that FUSE / NTFS needs a mountlist you know, I have an NTFS testing partition, and no sign of a mountlist.
You can output the needed details to create one from media toolbox however.
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BTW is there an easier way of adding a volume to Linux than needing to figure out an fstab entry? Less complicated than a mount list but still when the system can figure out technical details and mount one itself it gets a bit old.
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from the commandline mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mountpoint
Once done I *think* you can copy the line from /etc/mtab to your fstab , procede with caution though as I'm not as linux competent as amiga.
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 5-Jul-2014 15:53:49
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That's good to know. If NTFS can mount out of the box all the better.
I know MTB can output mount lists, but I'd prefer an easier way of doing it. For example, I gave up on the last Linux volume I made. I had to export the mount list, change a few lines, and I could never get it to mount. An auto mounter that can be programmed to know would be better than fiddling around. |
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 5-Jul-2014 16:31:56
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Re: My Amiga x1000 extremely slow? Posted on 5-Jul-2014 17:58:06
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Ok I am now copying whole system to USB Flash. Tomorrow we will connect SSD disk to Amiga X1000, Quick Format it [I suppose], add several partitions [including 1st one for that small Amiga .sf file for boot and copy back AmigaOS from Flash.
One question:
- Where is old Magic Menu prefs placed now? I want to set Right Click on Workbench [and other system-friendly programs] to Right Mouse Click stays opened, once clicked. At default system I have to hold it which is not good to me.
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