@tlosm

There are closed source h264 drivers that are indeed significantly faster than libavcodec, but they're commercial and irrelevant to us. And even more irrelevant on PowerPC... The only efficient one would be CoreAVC, but it's commercial and only available on OSX.

Then you also have graphic cards that can materially decode h264 (which is why your Pi can actually play them smoothly). And guess what, MPlayer has actually support for this, but we don't have graphic cards and/or drivers allowing to use that anyway. So again, it's quite irrelevant.

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Sorry i dont belive is the machine power 30% of cpu consuming and free under Mos and 40% under AmigaOs with a 720p video isnt a problem of the machine but for sure of the player ...

Can you rephrase that in an understandable way, please?

In any case, on MorphOS, with MPlayer, playing 720p h264 content is doable on Macmini/Powerbook, and 1080p h264 is just fine on Powermac G5. This wouldn't be the case with SDL and without overlay, though. And on a Pegasos2, 480p h264 content is definitely ok as well.

@Fab

rephase:

Mp4 , divx, mkv , webm 720p

Mos: Mplayer took for video decoding on my Peg2 30% of cpu the other 70% is free
AOS: Mplayer took for video decoding on my Peg2 40% of cpu for the other 60% is free

the output is not sincronized Audio with video ...
for mkv it is more evident

there is or problem with the player or with the library decoder if external or with video library .. but i think is the first one the problem because with DvPlayer on AmigaOs i can play 1080p Divx without problems ... and im 100% sure guillaume with x1000 too.

On macmini 1.5 and 64mb vram ... i can play 720p Mkv sincronized with 100% of using of the cpu

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@tlosm

Your test case is rather imprecise.... I hope it won't be a surprise to you that a 720p h264 file will take much more cpu than a 720p divx, for instance. And for that matter, my peg2 will happily play 1080p mpeg2 or 720p divx at full speed...

And just for your information again, MPlayer (MorphOS/Pegasos2) is faster than DvPlayer on the same machine (be it on OS4 or emulated on MorphOS with OS4emu) with about every file you can throw at it (i.e mpeg/mpeg2, divx, and that's about it since DvPlayer doesn't support much more anyway). Here for the actual results performed years ago... http://obligement.free.fr/articles/amigaos41_vs_morphos23.php or http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28068&forum=33&start=140&viewmode=flat&order=0#478205

So let's say we talk about a 720p H264 file, and better, let's take one everyone can actually test, instead of talking about hot air. For instance, let's take http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=13006&clipid=1

I would be VERY surprised that MPlayer (at least under MorphOS) would only take 30% CPU to play it (unless you copied it on a floppy disk or you streamed it from a slow network source maybe?!). Obviously it will take 100% CPU, since H264 720p is quite demanding when it's not materially decoded, and the playback will be too slow, and as a consequence, the audio won't be synchronized either.

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@Fab

no i have a 9800pro Radeon card and the video was streamed by an SSD

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@Fab

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Regarding that grey background in p96pip, it's most likely just a missing Backfill hook painting the window/screen in black. It's not rocket science to fix/add that.

For me sometimes the background is white, sometimes grey, sometimes just one "panel" is grey. its really annoying for 4:3 (which is alot of youtube videos) Maybe if it was uniform like the background was all grey or all white (white sux for watching video), but its more like the left side of the frame is black, top is black (with a nice 5 pixel white line at the top for fun) and the right frame is grey or white. Really distracting..

having said all this I dont know how ANYONE can live without Overlay. Especially on a machine that cost as much as a used car (a crappy used car but you get the point)

Side note: had a friend over demo my peg with morphos and os4 he was amazed at how fast smtube launched, found a video and launched and played it (thanks to muimplayer as well as you mentioned :) ) When i told him it was a g4 with radeon 9000 he almost flipped. (He does high end motion graphics for disney, sony, and other big production companies)

@kas1e

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In other words, you even don't see yourself that memory leak, but complain about based on what i wrote years ago ?

Just wanted to tell you this was very funny and I love your posts and hardwork for os4 effort.

@MickJT

"@zzd10h, have you tried mui-mplayer with -vo sdl (lowercase)? How it does fair against mine if you use both -vo sdl and -ao sdl ?"

Yes, MUIMplayer for a 320p YouTube video with

-vo sdl => sound but no video
-vo sdl -ao sdl => nothing, failed
-vo cgx_wpa -cache 8192 => stamp sized window + desynchronisation of the sound and video


"Looks like it should be fairly easy to get the -fs switch working if someone wants it."

Me, of course, I want it if it's easy for you ;)

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@zzd10h

Just noticed that the mplayer sources on googlecode aren't for the MUI mplayer. It misses ahi_dev and cgx_wpa, but I found them elsewhere (Google search and on Fab's site).

I've sent you an e-mail with a link to my port with the video mode command line switches working. On information from a previous thread, I changed -O4 to -O2 as well. I don't see any difference though.

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@zzd10h

sdl output drivers won't work with "MUI Mplayer", they were useless and thus disabled in the build options.

@MickJT

They might be quite outdated, depending on the version you took them from. Besides, ao and vo drivers are definitely not the only important changes in MPlayer. There are many more here and there (builtin MUI gui, fixes in large file support, dvd/dvdnav playback, cache support, network changes, rexx support and so on...)

@MickJT

Thank you, I just tried.

"-fs" works in CLI mode but it opens the video in my second GFX card, I have to try to create a screenmode for MPlayer.

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@Fab

Ah okay. Just some other reasons not to release it "formally/officially". Whoever wants my ports can just ask me or find someone who has it. I found three places where I can find p96/cgx/ahi code, your site, kas1e's site, and afxgroup's site (but linked from Google only, no directory listing). There's also the googlecode SVN repo for the non-MUI mplayer. I'll look at this stuff later. Sometime in the next few days I'll just undisable altivec and send that one privately to a couple of people.

@zzd10h

Replied in e-mail.

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@tlosm

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rephase: Mp4 , divx, mkv , webm 720p Mos: Mplayer took for video decoding on my Peg2 30% of cpu the other 70% is free AOS: Mplayer took for video decoding on my Peg2 40% of cpu for the other 60% is free

CPU usage indeed is suspiciously low...

Just to clarify, are you using widescreen files (1280x720) or 4:3 (960x720)? Although I think even 4:3 720p should use WAY more than 30%...

@Jupp3

Radeon 9800pro 128mb
on pegasos 2 G4 1.266mhz my audio board is a Soudblaster Live 5.1
with a Sata 2 ata adaptor on ATA 1 with an SSD Samsung 840
2 GB of Crucial DDR 400 ram

the Mos was 3.3 the video are 16:9
and my desktop was running at 1080p

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@tlosm

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the Mos was 3.3 the video are 16:9 and my desktop was running at 1080p

That's completely irrelevant. Only video source resolution matters. That defines the amount of data the CPU has to process.

(Assuming sane environment, where any scaling isn't done by the CPU)

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@Jupp3

I write just for ;)
i know the last one is better optimized compared with before versions ...
I will check hope soon when my pegasos will return from maintenance .
Or i will made another strange test with a mini mos machine just buy from me :P

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