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Regarding memory leak that was something you wrote once muimplayer was ported

In other words, you even don't see yourself that memory leak, but complain about based on what i wrote years ago ?

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I will not search for some old thread to point it out to you but I do remember what was written. Deny it if you like, I don't care.

You will not search ? You don't care ? Man, its i will not search, and i don't care then. You maybe think i sit all the days over all the projects in which i involved and remember any forum posts which i wrote myself years ago like i have nothing else to do ?

To clear moment: I do all that porting ####-work for free , to please myself and few other os4 users who understand realms. If you can't live with "grey background in overlay" , damn, not use it , use DvPlayer, and annoy Cobra to implement all your wishes.

Or better, go to google, and port all what you want to see on os4, and then, i will throw on you all bug-reports, complains and 'i don't care' with 'i will not search some old thread to point it out to you' .

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Could you incorporate the p96pip driver in your port ? Does it make use of Altivec ?

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@kas1e

Complain or point out an issue? Depends on how you look at it. I don't complain and yes I do use DVPlayer the time I spend with AOS 4 which is very little these days. I don't anoy Cobra, I use another system instead. Do I anoy you? I have never sent you an e-mail and I think one PM since you first showed up here.

Regarding "don't care", what it means is that I don't care enough to argue with you. You're the one who talks back to the issues that I point out and fine, so be it. I use another system instead of arguing.

@thread



Come on guys. This is a very interesting thread. Let's not become upset with each other.

Even I am having some problems installing QT first. It seems that there are some missing files so I have not even gotten to installing smTube. If I can't figure it out I may be asking for help later on.

For now though please kiss and make up. Eh?

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@K-L

I could try (altivec and p96_pip), but not for a while.

I just noticed my latest sdl mplayer port was accidentally linked against the altivec libx264. Oops. Fortunately it seems the built-in ffmpeg h264 decoder is used instead, so it doesn't matter anyway for generic PPC users such as myself.

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@MickJT

libx264 is only used for encoding, not for decoding (in ffmpeg and mencoder).

Regarding that grey background in p96pip, it's most likely just a missing Backfill hook painting the window/screen in black. It's not rocket science to fix/add that.

@zz10h

For the record, 360p h264 only takes 20-25% CPU on a Pegasos2/MorphOS... And 480p plays way below 100% as well. I doubt you could achieve that even remotely using the SDL version...

Regarding synchronization, there are two different available audio output drivers, ahi (using library api) and ahi_dev (using ahi device api).
ahi_dev ao had some issue, but the default ahi ao is perfectly in sync. So just check which one you're using.

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@Fab

"@zz10h
For the record, 360p h264 only takes 20-25% CPU on a Pegasos2/MorphOS... And 480p plays way below 100% as well. I doubt you could achieve that even remotely using the SDL version..."


I must be wrong because for me SDLMplayer streams a 360p video with low CPU consumption (between 10% and 20%).


See CPU indicator at top (and no, I'm not in Pause state ):

http://zzd10h.amiga-ng.org/Divers/SDLMplayer_360p_01.jpg

http://zzd10h.amiga-ng.org/Divers/SDLMplayer_360p_02.jpg


Nevertheless, Fab, I don't say that SDLMplayer is better than MUIMplayer,
I say just that SDLMplayer is the ONLY ONE
-to allow to resize window on a NON OVERLAY system
AND
-to allow to stream videos

Nothing more...

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@zzd10h

10%, on a Pegasos2? And your Pegasos2 has 2 cores, according to your screenshot? I want one ! :)

Also, "Mui mplayer" is able to stream over many different protocols (including http like youtube obviously), but maybe it doesn't work on OS4 for some reason.

As for resizing, well, a software scaler could be used, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's really silly not to use overlay when it's available on practically any gfx card.

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@Fab

1) I don't say that I have a Peg2. I have a X1000 and you well know that only 1 core is used.

But like you on your Peg2/MOS, the CPU consumption is low on OS4/SDLMplayer.

2) I know that MUIMplayer is stream compatible.

I said just that SDLMplayer is the only one (take care to the "AND")
"-to allow to resize window on a NON OVERLAY system
AND
-to allow to stream videos "

3) overlay is not available on HD cards, but you still know that...
I have it on my second card (R9250) but no need to switch on it if SDLMplayer does the job.

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@zzd10h

i can say on think for sure ... Mui Mplayer is Crappy with a resolution highter of 480p with overlay active.
tested on my R2b5 Pegasos2 G4 1.266 mhz 2Gb Crucial ati Radeon 9000pro and SSD
On Morphos or with AmigaOs and on mos i tested it with 9800pro too

mkv, Mp4 or divx with a 720p video i have on my peg2 30% of cpu consuption (with mp4)and Video and audio not sincronized... i test many and many video with the same result .
I dont know is because the MuiMplayer or a decoding library.... but for sure use a video with a resolution more hi of 480p is equal to ... better dont see

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@zzd10h

1. So you're telling me that MPlayer SDL on X1000 requires as much cpu time as my Pegasos2 to play a 360p h264 stream on MorphOS. That's rather bad... I don't even want to know how bad it performs on hd streams, then.

3. Well overlay IS available on all radeons in a way or another (either through real overlay or through the 3d functions). What is not available everywhere is a driver for it. Quite different thing.

@tlosm

If only you understood something about all this... Of course 720p h264 won't play on your hardware, and of course sound won't be synchronized, since there's not even enough time to decode video frame in real time, doh...
So, how crappy are the other players, tell me? :)

Just for fun, try it on linux, it will be even (much) worse. Even on a G4@1,5GHz, OSX/Linux Mplayer or VLC aren't able to cope with 720p contents by a long shot, unlike MorphOS MPlayer, which has a quite faster display routine.

PS: don't use the framedrop option in mplayer (or VLC) for hd contents, they just lead to something unwatchable (VLC is even worse, it just shows the first frame when it's enabled).

@Fab

1) I just want to say, again :

"I said just that SDLMplayer is the only one (take care to the "AND")
-to allow to resize window on a NON OVERLAY system
AND
-to allow to stream videos "

2) "lack of driver", yes I know.


I'm very happy with SDLMplayer and I have explained why I prefer it rather than MUIMplayer.


What is your point ?

Saying than MUIMplayer is better ?
And/or than Peg2/MOS with MUIMplayer and Overlay is better than X1000/OS4 with SDLMplayer ?

I don't understand your goal, Fab...

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@Fab

sorry fab but im not agree with your opinion , just because on an old amd 1.200mhz more more less powered (compared with a G4 1266) and with a Radeon 9200se i have a better (much much better ) result thanks to good decoding library and better player-
i m specking about :
Ultimate Codecs Pack and windows media player Classic ... (not vlc, not standard,not quick time and not DivxVideo)...
Sorry i dont belive is the machine power 30% of cpu consuming and free under Mos and 40% under AmigaOs with a 720p video isnt a problem of the machine but for sure of the player ...

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@zzd10h

I would be rather surprised that SDL based playback is faster than the cgx_wpa (or whatever it's correct name is) mode of MUIMplayer even if you can't use the p96_pip modes.

The primary advantage of newer mplayer core code would improved codec support, though as mplayer already plays just about every codec under the sun, there is a law of diminishing return here.

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@tlosm

Windows has access to propriety hardware decoding in the gfx cards, this is not available to any other platform due to licensing restrictions.

Manufacturers of of gfx cards *will not* document this, as they are not allowed to.

Thus my single core linux box struggles to play a DVD but if I bought into windows to do it it flies.

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@broadblues

I don't know which version of MPlayer is fastest,

"I said just that SDLMplayer is the only one (take care to the "AND")
-to allow to resize window on a NON OVERLAY system
AND
-to allow to stream videos "

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@broadblues

i dont know ... but for sure Media Player Classic is a free poject open source last build is from 2006 and not a Microsoft project, and compared with the other and windows media player too is from 5 to 10x more faster.... means the player can do the difference.

Same is with Xbmc on the Xbox (the first, not x360 and not one) better playing result compared with peg2 and it have much lowest hardware specs.

And i can play great the Mkv 1080p HD on the RasperryPi too without decodering licenze
with Xbmc


Try your self

Media Player Classic

http://xbmc.org/

Mega Code Pack

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@Fab

It looks like libx264 is definitely linked into the binary. Perhaps there's a command line option to make it use it. If someone finds a way to use it, it'll crash on generic PPC systems unless I re-link it with the right library. Not concerned at the moment since it doesn't appear to be used at least by default.

@zzd10h, have you tried mui-mplayer with -vo sdl (lowercase)? How it does fair against mine if you use both -vo sdl and -ao sdl ?

I'd also like to figure out how to make the Cycle Resolutions option avoid certain screenmodes that freeze the system. I don't know if my changes mean that it opens in a window even if you set it in a config file to open in fullscreen (-fs is ignored). Just another reason I don't want to release it, but spreading it around privately is fine. If I released it, it'd be yet another port in the mix. I'd rather add the overlay and ahi and replace what's already on OS4Depot, but there's no solid plans to do that. It might happen, it might not. Depends if I'm even capable enough to do it (I'd just copy & paste from the other source and hope it works).

Edit: Looks like it should be fairly easy to get the -fs switch working if someone wants it.

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@tlosm

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i dont know ... but for sure Media Player Classic is a free poject open source last build is from 2006 and not a Microsoft project, and compared with the other and windows media player too is from 5 to 10x more faster.... means the player can do the difference.

Sure, anyone can write an open source player that uses closed source codecs.

And about "accelerated codecs being windows-only", that isn't the entire truth. There are also 3rd party codecs, that use the graphics card to do some decoding, and yes, we don't have those either.

Sure, overlay usage does some, most important being video scaling (for which many "accelerated" players use overlay aswell) but there's MUCH more that could be done.

Or couldn't, was we don't have support for the required API's.