Dear Amigans,

Please let me know here, by PM or at rasvoja@gmail.com if any update
is out via AmigaUpdate until end of November.

Thanks.

Reason:

Ban from Hyperion download section might affect the AmiUpdate
and render AmigaOS update feature dysfunctional, which is
yet another breach of end user rights.

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@vox

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Please let me know here, by PM or at rasvoja@gmail.com if any update is out via AmigaUpdate until end of November.

nope. nothing in the past two weeks.

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Ban from Hyperion download section might affect the AmiUpdate and render AmigaOS update feature dysfunctional, which is yet another breach of end user rights.

um.... don't you think you're being a touch melodramatic here?

-- eliyahu

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@eliyahu

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nope. nothing in the past two weeks.

I assume it must be two more weeks. Was hoping for onboard Ethernet,
Trevor sad it works well and is in beta.

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um.... don't you think you're being a touch melodramatic here?

No, I am not just banned from support forum, but my Hyperion website
account has been suspended, which to best to my knowledge, will unable
me to download regular updates.

In the end, as long as that ban is leasting, Hyperion is breaching end
user rights. Dread seriously.

Pic Pic of ban pon FB

Pic that shows that is violation of support website TOS

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@vox

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Hyperion is breaching end user rights.

And you were breaching TOS as well as all standards of decency.

You had been warned several times before your ban, but you chose to go on with your silly rants. So don't try to play a martyr here and learn your lesson.

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@eliyahu

*thumbs up*

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@vox

good thing you've kept the x86 laptop then...

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@Trixie

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And you were breaching TOS as well as all standards of decency. You had been warned several times before your ban, but you chose to go on with your silly rants. So don't try to play a martyr here and learn your lesson.

No doubt I earned it except I haven`t been warned by a mod. Users can have opinions.

But read the TOS it sais explicitly you will have the access the download area.

Who is breaching TOS now? So teddy bear should be also suspended,
if its his idea.

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good thing you've kept the x86 laptop then...

Good thing I kept X1000, so that is all breach of end user software
support for A-EON product, including unfinished drivers and no
boot CD for Linux and no manuals as well as half usable browser
that claims its finished product (doesnt say alpha, beta ...)

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@Trixie

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And you were breaching TOS as well as all standards of decency.

perhaps. but it is irrelevant. a customer is a customer. everyone of us has sure had an experience with a products, that he was not satisfied with after purchase, wrongly advertised, or with kind of support delivered. and im sure everyone has insited on his rights as customer. eventually in not a very polite way if other means had no effect.

are you suggesting a customer has to completely surrender to a company he is buying product from? do you suggest company has a right to single out unsatisfied customers (vox is still supportive though) and punish them?

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@wawa

I am more then supportive: I am still willing to invest in AmigaOS/AEON future
but not unconditionally.

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are you suggesting a customer has to completely surrender to a company he is buying product from? do you suggest company has a right to single out unsatisfied customers (vox is still supportive though) and punish them?

In short, if they don`t do what THEY have promised (my demands list is simple,
as seen in deleted mail) we ll see what EU courts think. In class suit
every user is free to join if feels the similar or finds some aspects
the same.

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@vox

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Good thing I kept X1000, so that is all breach of end user software support for A-EON product, including unfinished drivers and no boot CD for Linux and no manuals as well as half usable browser that claims its finished product (doesnt say alpha, beta ...)

What does a 1/2 finished browser have to do with a ban on hyperion? when did this browser become their ownership?

That's it! I am fed up with Hyperion. My browser on my Mac stopped working and I am so upset.

Amigaperson party of 1, amigaperson party of 1, your table is ready.

tj

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@amigasociety

Well, if we go to court I will go for everything that can be considered
unfinished and non working, if not well covered in X1000 info and
Quickstart guide. Ban from updates is just part of it.

As much as I see in About, TW doesn`t say any beta or anything,
and it came as default browser. Its also advertised as such on amigaos.net

Surely, I do know about its limits, but here I do prepare for worse case
scenario. Which I really hope will not be necessary.

Such development and support of paid product, simply doesn`t
pass EU laws in many ways, simple example is that X1000 has
one year limited warranty while in EU laws says 2 years min.

I am willing to tolerate all this only if they had better communication
skills and would shift priorities to user needs (SAM 460, X1000) first.

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@vox

What is this web browser that is 1/2 done.

I was not aware they (hyperion) created such a beast.

TJ

@amigasociety

sure, therefore it has been hammered about so much that tw is "free time job" of (incidentally) o4 core developers. divide et impera.

@amigasociety

Its renders pages well and fast with Java 0.5,
but closing, downloads, bookmarks ... HTML5 render
aren`t there yet.

I call it 1/2 done, but there are not even two more weeks to go.
TW22 is promised without FF4 done. Wrong way to go.

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@vox

Yes, I know of TW shortcomings. I agree it is not what it needs to be. I for one would also love to see it be fixed.

Still, my question is, when though did Timberwolf become a Hyperion owned product? If it is theirs, then I guess you have grounds to complain about it direct to Hyperion, but to my knowledge, it is not their software.

TJ

@vox

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Well, if we go to court I will go for everything...

and I will get the popcorn ...

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@amigasociety

It's not their product, but Vox seems to be arguing that it is advertised on the AmigaOS site without any mention of it's flaws, which indeed could be considered as false advertising.

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@vox
Why did they ban you anyways?

@Trixie
Even if he broke every forum rule that should not affect his ability to download updates for a product he paid money for.

@WolfToTheMoon

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WolfToTheMoon wrote: @amigasociety It's not their product, but Vox seems to be arguing that it is advertised on the AmigaOS site without any mention of it's flaws, which indeed could be considered as false advertising.

I think that sums up about every product out there then as all seem to have some flaws yet companies keep advertising and selling them.

Real fine line to go off of.

I would stick to only the facts and not stretch things like adding 3rd party products to the picture. Maybe that is just me.

Well, I will just continue enjoying what I do have and be patient until something improved arrives. I knew very well when I joined the Amiga hobby it is just that, a hobby, and stuff will get done when it gets done.

Maybe I am more patient because I am a fisherman. My advise, go out and fish and leave the Amiga alone for a weekend and enjoy life. No sense in getting sick over a silly computer. Life is way more important.

TJ

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