@Franko

years ago. :D

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@terminills

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terminills wrote: @Franko years ago. :D

Are you sure !!!

I've never noticed that before...

and he isn't on my hitlist...

(well he is now)...

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@Franko

"hitlist"? Has your "S" key broken again?

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@Franko

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Off topic but relevant to the thread... When did "Seer" become a mod... http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=1172 Just curious as I don't recall seeing any announcement made... congrats to Seer anyway...

2004 perhaps. It was a year or two before I did.

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@thread

Just out of curiosity, why are some of you changing the subject line from:

Re: Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ?

to:

Re: c

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@Moxee

I think Arko started it (post #3) and anybody who used the reply button on his post (or anybody who then replied to it, or replied to them, or replied to those who replied to them, etc) carried it on without noticing.

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See, if I reply to my post above and then change it to "marmite" then...

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and then if I use the reply button on my thread above...

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Why the obsession with roadmaps? Nobody does that anymore.

What you usually see from most companies is a set of "goals" for the next big release. Nothing past that. Things change too much to bother planning (publicly) past the next major release.

Hyperion has given us that at the last Amiwest and will likely refresh the "goals" in October. Pretty standard stuff.

@Darrin

Just for you, changed topic to Vegemite. Vegemite and sliced cheese sandwich.

@gregthecanuck

Blughhh. Vegimite is Marmite's evil brother. Nasty stuff.

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@sundown

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There is a road map for 4.2 in place, but NDA will stop anyone from posting it in public. I would wait for info from Amiwest to see what info comes out.

Thats interesting. Let me ask you this for what in the world do any os4 beta testers or even developers for that matter need an NDA? Its not like there is any industrial espionage. Nobody in the real computer world that would be a threat cares about Amiga anymore... I mean the NDA thing is completely pointless at this stage.

@ssolie

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My plan is to keep releasing Amiga operating system updates (i.e. bug fixes and free bonus features) until 4.2 is ready to ship. I believe this is what customers really want. I think customers would rather have working software than yet another promise. Finally, I think customers would rather be enjoying their systems than discussing what might be.

Yes very good. This is what should have been all along. I'm glad you have this approach.

Having said this, why is the roadmap secret? It would do A LOT for the morale of the user base and potential os4 system purchasers if there was a future they could look to. (and yes base it in reality because many of the features touted for os4.2 will take at least a couple of man years of development)

@Franko

Please dont act like you did on aorg and derail threads ot at every opportunity. Its egotistical and annoying.

@realize

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Thats interesting. Let me ask you this for what in the world do any os4 beta testers or even developers for that matter need an NDA?

We were offered a discount on an x1000 board, we had to sign an NDA to be one of the first. Part of the privilege after signing an NDA, is to test updates that no one else has or knows about. Some inside information is another plus. Its not my place to question why we need one, I'm a team player, so I follow the rules given. I suppose the biggest reason is so we don't give away any beta files to non-beta testers.

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@realize

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Having said this, why is the roadmap secret?

A road map for 4.2 was given, but not static, its a living thing, changing & evolving over time. Any road map given today may not hold true next month, but the basics for 4.2 were given.

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@sundown

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changing & evolving over time.

like in the case of the netbook? wonder where smp and 3d support has evolved to. lets see if amiwest will reveal anything..

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The roadmap is a very simple one: straight ahead and 'pedal to the metal'!

Hyperion c.s.: keep on going.

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We could put up a community maintained roadmap...
Collection of plans/features mentioned with quesstimate for release quartal.
And ssolie and HyperionMP being free to correct where we make mistake.
Usable idea, perhaps not?

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@sundown

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We were offered a discount on an x1000 board, we had to sign an NDA to be one of the first. Part of the privilege after signing an NDA, is to test updates that no one else has or knows about. Some inside information is another plus. Its not my place to question why we need one, I'm a team player, so I follow the rules given. I suppose the biggest reason is so we don't give away any beta files to non-beta testers.

I guess those are pretty valid reasons :)

@realize

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Thats interesting. Let me ask you this for what in the world do any os4 beta testers or even developers for that matter need an NDA? Its not like there is any industrial espionage. Nobody in the real computer world that would be a threat cares about Amiga anymore... I mean the NDA thing is completely pointless at this stage.

Let's say Hyperion is working on some feature (let's say automatic stack enlargenment). It's announced they are working on it, and announce it.

Then suddenly, "Whoops, this isn't even possible..." and it's removed from the list. Some end users might start complaining as they "promised" the feature earlier, and now they are taking it away. Same can happen on lesser scale, if a feature gets delayed to the next version (or beyond).

Also if you look at the history of AmigaOS4, the first deadlines were, how to put it nicely... "Extremely overly optimistic" - failing deadlines badly can understandably make people reluctant to make new (public) deadlines.

It's not "only on OS4" either. The MorphOS team was very careful to NOT announce forthcoming support for PowerMac G5 systems. It was always said it might not even end up in a public release. Yet I think some people bought those systems and are complaining why there's no MorphOS released for them yet...