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Re: c Posted on 5-Sep-2012 23:41:45
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Try not to let it get to you. OS4 is a real product. The X1000 is a real product. They're both selling and hopefully they will continue to do so, and OS4 will only get better and better.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 0:06:36
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If you look at original roadmap, you see that PPC native OS was planned until AmigaOS4.2, back then the plan was where different, for example it was not a native OS that was plan but a hosted OS whit some improvements.
What we have now on that old list:
* CAMD. * AHI * AmiRTG = Picasso96 * AmiNetStack = RoadShow * AmiFFS2 = FFS/07 Long Filenames, on filesystem front we have a lot more like XFS and SFS2. * Virtual Memory. * PPC 68K emulator = Petunia * Sheep = now replaced by Python * USB = EHCI,OHCI support. * Native PowerPC OS. * Simple memory protection.
What we do not have and is not planned.
* Java (interesting Java is getting less popular due security holes, there are some work on a Java port but its not part of the OS) * AmigaDE (dead did not catch on and is now obsolete) * Ami2D/Ami3D for AmigaDE (now obsolete).
What is planed and not on that list:
* Mesa / Golum3D * SMP * improved Memory protection * New Shell * Talks about a cops printing system port. * Talks on improving workbench. * New Task Scheduling. * Support for more drivers.
What we have that is not on that list
* Amiga Input * Ringio * compositing * Shared objects * Slab allocator * Support for PCI/PCI-e cards. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:18 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:16 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:16 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:09 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:08 AM.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 0:07:35
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 0:23:47
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 0:31:07
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 1:03:27
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actually we can do is look at other operating systems, and look at what they have, that we do not, and think about what is useful to have. |
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 2:23:44
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I was just joking, it was just a play on words on the quote from Back to the future.
Remember when quoting was fun?
(that's a play on words too - just in case) |
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 5:24:47
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Darrin wrote: @ssolie
OS4 is a real product. The X1000 is a real product. They're both selling and hopefully they will continue to do so, and OS4 will only get better and better.
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Can't get must truer than this, I'm almost proud of you Darrin
Please try and use the reference AOS4.x though when referring to the Amiga Operating System though, cheers.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 6:32:30
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We know rougly what is planned for AOS4.2. But I would like to know more how it is all progressing. More openness, to kill rumors etc.
If nothing else is going to be given, how about updated animation what goes on in AOS4 source repository (like the 25years of development video).
Also... yesterday I was thinking about reward bounties to AOS4 developers. Some extra $$$ bonus to help to keep the R&D going, even if we anyway need to pay reasonable amount to get 4.2 on our devices. example: Multicore support - reward part1 paid when AOS4 is demoed to run Blender when using both cores of PA6T. Part2 paid when 4.2+SMP is out. Similarly for Gallium3D, Mesa, 2GB+ support, AOS4 on netbook... POWER7 support - part1 paid when AOS4(multicore) demoed on POWER7 HW etc... (AOS4 on POWER would be good PR) PPCx CPU support - Money paid when AOS4 demoed to work on a previously not supported development board (APM & Freescale chips)(it would encourage the development of new HW for AOS4). Last edited by KimmoK on 06-Sep-2012 at 06:37 AM.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 8:03:05
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| @Darrin
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OS4 is a real product. The X1000 is a real product. They're both selling and hopefully they will continue to do so, and OS4 will only get better and better. |
Dont forget all sams I managed to get two classic-users to buy a amigaone 500. Hopefully 2-3 more guys will do the same but they wait for amiwest to see what kind of news there will be._________________ AmigaOS on Google+ AmigaOS on Facebook |
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 8:59:55
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Arko wrote: The feature set for AmigaOS4.2 includes;
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A lot of that is already in AOS4.1, they're in advance then? (as if you and that couple of other posters really care and deserve a reply for that matter...)
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 10:24:34
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Arko wrote: The feature set for AmigaOS4.2 includes;
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A lot of that is already in AOS4.1, they're in advance then? (as if you and that couple of other posters really care and deserve a reply for that matter...)
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The OP poster asked for a Roadmap of AOS4.2, I presented the only existing Roadmap for AOS4.2. No one else presented a newer roadmap or posted a link.
I did not discuss the content of the roadmap, so if people attack me because of "Trolling", I was not the person who wrote this roadmap, maybe you shoul adress your comments to them.
BTW.: It is interesting how foul language is accepted here, some people calls the moderation "biased" I think they are right._________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 10:28:06
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| @NutsAboutAmiga, sundown, ssolie
thanks for your posts. Hope that Hyperion and all other OS4 developers continue there good job and we will have some further releases. Lets see what comes before christmas or in 2013. I personally would like some updated intuition, I mean navigating in workbench windows (forward, backward, folder up) natively is something I miss more than SMP or 3D stuff.
@ssolie As long as nobody hires a babysitter and buys an airplane ticket for me there is no chance to visit amiwest ;)
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 10:38:26
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Please try and use the reference AOS4.x though when referring to the Amiga Operating System though, cheers.
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If you are going to be pedantic about terminology please try to use the correct term!
AmigaOS 4.2
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 12:04:49
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Arko wrote: @Nibunnoichi [quote] BTW.: It is interesting how foul language is accepted here, some people calls the moderation "biased" I think they are right. |
What foul language? I've just pointed out that a good part of that is already implemented. And i haven't called anyone "troll"...
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 12:24:50
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Would you care to point out this foul language that was accepted? _________________ AmigaOne X1000, A4000(T), A3000, A2000, A1200(T), A1200, A500, CD32, Minimig+ARM, FPGA Arcade, Chameleon64, C-One, C128, C128D, C64C, C64, VIC-20, CBM 8032, CBM4032, Efika, Ultimate64 |
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 12:25:47
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Will do. Last edited by Darrin on 06-Sep-2012 at 12:26 PM.
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Re: c Posted on 6-Sep-2012 12:26:50
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Quite right, I shouldn't forget the SAM systems. _________________ AmigaOne X1000, A4000(T), A3000, A2000, A1200(T), A1200, A500, CD32, Minimig+ARM, FPGA Arcade, Chameleon64, C-One, C128, C128D, C64C, C64, VIC-20, CBM 8032, CBM4032, Efika, Ultimate64 |
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Re: Is there a roadmap for OS4.2 ? Posted on 7-Sep-2012 0:15:35
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4 more days before I get home...
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Counting the days are you?Last edited by Moxee on 07-Sep-2012 at 03:36 AM.
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Re: c Posted on 7-Sep-2012 0:33:25
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Off topic but relevant to the thread...
When did "Seer" become a mod...
http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=1172
Just curious as I don't recall seeing any announcement made... congrats to Seer anyway...
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