@itix

+1. exactly that. all his and his amiga technologies investment in the platform amounts to to trying to sell the remaining stock. all what we may praise him for is that he didnt intentionally try to destroy the platform. although im not even sure if that is true looking at what he did, is this just pure naivety or bad will..
walker.. shrugggg..

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@Toaks

+1

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uh! ????

I was referring to the Amiga's re-introduction by Amiga Technologies... which happened around Nov/Dec 1995. with the "Magic Pack" Ie: after the PSX, Pentiums,...

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Leo wrote: Quote: uh! ???? I was referring to the Amiga's re-introduction by Amiga Technologies... which happened around Nov/Dec 1995. with the "Magic Pack" Ie: after the PSX, Pentiums,...

Well the post was directed towards Fairdinkem guy, so unless you're him it's kinda moot.
But, Amiga as a computer was not dead , people developed games, hardware came out and so on, but all to their own i guess as after all this forum is all about calling the Amiga a scandal and useless right Leo?

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Microsoft did not set out to destroy any particular platform. They
only enforced their contracts with the hardware makers. Just as
they did with Linux. The only company I know of that had the legal
means to sell micros with a other OS was IBM with OS/2.

Dell quit bidding for Amiga, and Gateway could do nothing with it
and still do profitable business in the PC/Microsoft world. It was,
and still is, all about money. Of course Dell and Gateway no longer
exist as computer/technology companies but only as names stuck on
computers.

If Amiga was going to succeed, at that time, it needed a tech company
like IBM, HP, Xerox, Digital Equipment, ASUS, not companies like Dell,
Gateway, Escom, or other re-packagers/resellers.

All in the past now. The future is in our hands.

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Calling AmigaOS a pig (with a lipstick) as a metaphor?

It's an expression/saying in the english language, look it up.

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Calling AmigaOS a pig (with a lipstick) as a metaphor? It's an expression/saying in the english language, look it up.

Aware of the idioms, but surely you could pick any of them - mind what you say.

Don`t mix grandmas and frogs (where AmigaOS can be grandma or frog, depending on your taste

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@vox

I chose the right idiom...

Have you ever used Mac OS 8 or 9? Or maybe Windows Millenium? That's about what you get when you evolve old code to it's limits(or, better said, past it's limits) and rename it. Yes, putting lipstick on a pig...

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Commodore killed the Amiga through lack of direction and bad marketing.

Yes, I agree. Even if they did have help, Commodore was so badly run that they could have killed off the Amiga on their own, given enough time.

One particular nail in the coffin that I remember was Wolfenstein 3D. It was really a surprise at the time that a real-time 3D game could be made to run on a "brain dead" 286. This was widely discussed at Amiga user group meetings, and it really took the wind out of the Amiga's sails as a gaming platform.

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@Dandy: I just listen to the interview and Petro didn´t confirm, that Bill Gates killed the Amiga. He just said, that Getaway didn´t support Collas very much and that he heard a rumor, that this was because Getaway don´t want to have a conflict with Bill Gates/Microsoft. So Petro confirmed nothing, you only made a misquotation.

Next time please listen carefully before making false quotes!

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@AP

LOL. I guess he just heard what he wanted to hear. At least we had some fun discussing it.

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Windows Millenium?

Seen it, worse nightmare of Windows 3.xx-98 family issues.

Idiom is right, parallel isn`t since OS4 is quite advancement and not recycling.

Hmmm ... pig with a lipstick ... could be nice parallel for those falsely proclaimed "x86 Amigas"

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Well the post was directed towards Fairdinkem guy, so unless you're him it's kinda moot. But, Amiga as a computer was not dead , people developed games, hardware came out and so on, but all to their own i guess as after all this forum is all about calling the Amiga a scandal and useless right Leo?

Everything is relative. Relative to 90-92, no one was developing anymore for the Amiga, no more new hardware was produced: most (sorry, all) big name developers had left. Still, people were developping indeed. But commercialy it was long dead. Big companies do not spend money developing for a 10 thousand users in the whole world. Now, I'm not talking about scandal,... just saying thinking Microsoft (or any other big company) was thinking about killing something already dead isn't realistic. Call that "calling the Amiga a scandal and useless" if you wish, but that isn't what I said.

Commodore, Amstrad, Atari,... all didn't need Microsoft to go bankrupt.

I'm happy to play with it every week but it doesn't change the fact it's long dead. And I'm ok with that.

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Leo wrote: Everything is relative. Relative to 90-92, no one was developing anymore for the Amiga

Odd... if ALL big companies were gone from the Amiga scene around 90/ 92 then why were for example USA Gold producing the game "World Cup USA 94" for the Amiga...

Did they build a time machine out of an old C64 and some brownian motion liquid, nip forward a couple of years produce the game and travel back to 90/ 92 wait two years then release it...

Just a thought...

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nobody said Bill Amiga killed, only he could push and it's just a theory but it would not be strange.

If not well understood in the 90-92 .. major companies were gone?,
Not true, the 90-92 were the best years gaming products and programs.
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?&Y_released=1992&af=0-9
They were absolutely all the great, Ocean, Psygnosis, Activision, Electronics Arts, Lucas Arts , Team17, NewTek, Scala, GVP, ...........

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aOS a metaphorical pig wearing metaphorical lipstick.

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aOS a metaphorical pig wearing metaphorical lipstick.

@asymetrix

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asymetrix wrote: @thread ... Petro got fired for selling Amigas below cost price - geez. ...

Selling outdated stuff below cost price to get the repository cleared (clearance sales) seems quite normal to me.
No idea why anybody should get fired for that...

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Plexus wrote: ... Now I must use Bill Gates Fuccin Xbox360 to play upcomming Halo4 and Skyrim! ...

Who is forcing you to use XBox?

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itix wrote: @wawa I have no idea. Petro's Amiga Technologies is comparable to McEwen's Amiga Inc. Only promises and empty talk.

Hmmm - why are you lying intentionally?

You should know very well that Petro brought the A1200 back on sale, released OS 3.5 and commissioned OS3.9. Under his reign the decision was made to move the Amiga to PPC. MOS was planned to become the NG AmigaOS. CSPPC and BPPC were released.

These are a lot of achievements - "promises and empty talk" are something entirely different from my point of view...

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