If you all want a rumour that is unsubstatiated, heres one I tend to beileve.

Gateway purchased Amiga because of the patents so they could threaten legal action and screw there suppliers and get an extra few cents from the price of for example graphics cards etc. The Amiga reserection from them was funded for PR while they milked the patents.

Once they were finished they got rid of Amiga, but I believe they kept patents.

However, I could be wrong but more plausable than Bill Gates killed Amiga.

If that was the case, he could have just bought the company and binned it.

Who knows.

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Funny how people forget. Maybe it's because most of ppl who actually know what happened have left.

@Rose
If that's the true story I have to say "only in America...".

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@Troels

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Troels wrote: @Rose If that's the true story I have to say "only in America...".

If you read whole thread you find quite many confirmations about it...

@Rose

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Rose wrote: @Troels Quote: Troels wrote: @Rose If that's the true story I have to say "only in America...". If you read whole thread you find quite many confirmations about it...

That gave me a real good laugh... because someone spreads a rumour in a thread on a computer forum that magically makes that rumour true and the rumours are now considered as "confirmations"...

I'd hate to see you in court defending yourself on a "defamation of character" or "slander" charge...

"It's true your honour I read it on an Amiga forum..."

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@Rose

Far more interesting than Petro,Collas and the various Bills:

What happened with Tigger ?

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@Rose

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Rose wrote: @Troels Quote: Troels wrote: @Rose If that's the true story I have to say "only in America...". If you read whole thread you find quite many confirmations about it...

That was NOT Collas, it was me, and it was great!

@wawa

By the way, anyone have any idea how Escom got interested into buying Amiga in the first place?

Did someone from Commodore hint them about it (Petro?) or did they themselves figure out it could be a good move to buy it?

@Bugala

who knows. very shady. not long before amigas were available in major retail markets though. i think it must have been very cheap deal, and therefore so poor. broken leftover hardware for the dumb.

@Bugala

I have seen a claim that Petro wanted to prevent Commodore UK to get Amiga. But it was 10 years ago when I heard about it on IRC and I dont know who said it.

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@itix

but how got escom which seemed well going company wich must have been that before interested in such crap deal is really dubious.

@Dandy

"Petro confirmed the old rumor that Bill Gates didn't want a new Amiga system to compete with his PCs and so put pressure on the Gateway CEO."

a natural reaction of somebody who have a other OS on the market. And like Petro said, the Gateway guys self didn't wanted the Amiga specially the staff, because they was not trained in and didn't knew anything at all about an Amiga. It was a PC company they was dealing with PC stuff and what was running on PCs.

So please not such ridiculous topics that Bill Gates killed the Amiga. Specially for ppls who can't understand the German interview! which is really good and interesting (the interview). Thanks to boingsworld for this.

M.

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by wawa on 3-Dec-2011 15:46:38 whoa. forgive me but what is it all about?? petro tyschtschenko or whats his name have himself, with his own bare hands sunk amiga with his unprofessional afterhour amiga technologies and partner company escom

I think Bill McEwen was much more to blame. Petro/Amiga Technologies at least got the A1200/A4000T back on the shelves, got OS 3.5 out of the door, made prototypes (The Amiga Walker) attended shows and got the Amiga back in stores.

McBill and crew seemed to do absolutely everything they could to stop/stand in the way of any progress of the Amiga platform, ignoring developer requests, issuing take-down notices to Amiga sites for logos/names, suing developers, lies after lies, blocking development of the OS on other platforms (Moana), inventing fake product announcements that were never real and basically seemed to go out of their way to actively kill the Amiga once and for all.

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Why would Bill Gates go out of his way to "kill the Amiga" in 1999 when it had already been commercially dead for 5 years, and then on the other hand inject a load of money into Apple in the same year to keep them alive?

Surely the Mac is/was much more of a threat by then than the Amiga, yet Bill/MS actively kept it alive by investing millions in company shares when they were very close to going the way of Commodore.

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@danwood

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Surely the Mac is/was much more of a threat by then than the Amiga, yet Bill/MS actively kept it alive by investing millions in company shares when they were very close to going the way of Commodore.

That is an easy answer, Microsoft were scared of american legislators that they were dominant so why not invest a modest sum to keep a competitor alive that they could say well we are not that dominant and then make a fortune by ensuring with Apple that Microsoft Office was number one office suite on the Mac.

Look it up.

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@clusteruk

Oh I knew this already, they HAD to keep Apple alive to avoid being broken up/tore apart by the competitions comissions etc. But it still doesn't gel with the vibe of this thread that Microsoft were killing off other platforms intentionally, in fact a third, smaller player might have also been beneficial to them.

I heard from a reliable person that it was aliens that killed the amiga

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Fairdinkem wrote: @Leo I agree, by the time Commodore went bankrupt the Amiga was far from being the power house it once was, and I doubt Bill Gates was curled up in the fetal position in a corner because he was afraid of what Amiga might become. By the time the Amiga 1200 was released I was looking at pentiums systems with CDROM drives and consoles like the 3DO, PSX etc..... The Amiga was looking pretty sad by this time.

uh! ????

3DO came a year and a half after the A1200 (in America) (end of the year in 1993), and 5 months after that it came out in Europe (1994).

Playstation 1, came 2 years after the 1200 in JAPAN, and 3 YEARS after the A1200 (IN Europe).

Pentium systems came a year after the A1200 and they where so expensive that even the most elites guys and work places didn't want to take the jump at the time.

The pentiums bacame more popular in 1995 due to varios reasons but also, the DX 486 cpu's was much faster than the first pentium's (was it p60 ?).

CD-ROM on pc became popular around the late 1992's but it wasn't before the big games that the market exploded and became really popular, (mid 1994).
Backup tapes and floppies where quite popular for bedroom coders and hackers etc for quite a while as CD-ROM recorders was too expensive etc.

So yes , i guess your post was pure sarcasm or?.-

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@wawa

I have no idea. Petro's Amiga Technologies is comparable to McEwen's Amiga Inc. Only promises and empty talk.

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Petro/Amiga Technologies at least got the A1200/A4000T back on the shelves, got OS 3.5 out of the door, made prototypes (The Amiga Walker) attended shows and got the Amiga back in stores.

Petro nor AT never did anything useful. Amiga 1200/4000T was already outdated and overpriced. Just like Amiga Inc outsourced OS4 development to Hyperion, Amiga Technologies outsourced 3.5/3.9 "development" to H&P. The best Petro could do was lurking on Amiga events talking second coming of jeesus... err Amiga.

It would have been better if AT dissolved itself.

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