He definitely killed Amiga reverting the common sense.
I remember perfectly that, at that age, passed the idea that something with four colours and a prompt was something "professional" and therefore reliable and believebole when something with icons windows and colours was only a game machine.

@ilbarbax

Amiga Workbench for Professionals:

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And here is Macintosh for professionals:

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@Leo

the Amiga Workbench for Professionals: look like macintosh screen so did st screen

but amiga screen look lot better

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@mcbone: lot better ? I'm not sure what you mean by better, but Mac screen sure looks at lot more professional... And 512*384 resolution is a lot better too.

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@Leo

the Amiga look better as it in colour than to b/w

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Bill Gates killed the Amiga with the help of the US Supreme Court Judges!

@Leo & mcbone

Ahem... dont miss the message I was replying to

"I remember perfectly that, at that age, passed the idea that something with four colours and a prompt was something "professional" and therefore reliable and believebole"

How many colours Amiga Workbench had again?

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How many colours Amiga Workbench had again?

V1.0 is a little too early for me to know.

Did the pointer have shadow/highlight color then?

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Nope. Not until ARGB pointers on Radeon made it possible.

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@ilbarbax

I remember that too. It is strange how it was that way in 80s and early 90s still, that machines that worked with white text on black background only seemed like the real professional machines that when i grow up, i will start using too, and these multitasking, deluxe paint, deluxemusic including machines, they werent really that serious?

@Leo

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Actually, it wasn't a real advancement: the real advancement came in 1992 with the AGA chipset, which wasn't that advanced since lots of things remained unchanged: Paula,... The A3000 didn't bring any major change: still 32/64 colors, same Paula,...

I was giving the A3000 points for having a 68030 (which seemed exciting at the time!), but I see your point about AGA -- the 030 made the system faster, but it wasn't a significant architecture change. So yeah, it was actually 7 years, not 5.

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@bison

Hence why the push for more color from 3rd parties like DCTV, Colorburst, HamE,
Firecracker, Opalvision etc. etc.

Opalvision was the first time I saw 24bit anims (A3000). I think the s/w was Magic Lantern.

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Hmmm - back in 1992 I was just doing my CAD Analyst course. At school PCs with 286 cpu still were standard, with the first 386s appearing in some classrooms.

That was the amazing thing about Wolf 3D -- it ran (fast!) on a 286. No-one was expecting that, since the 286 was commonly considered a "brain dead" CPU at the time.

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@number6

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Did the pointer have shadow/highlight color then?

It looked like this:

Workbench 1.0

Note: I'm using UAE because E-UAE segfaults on my system (I get a core file, but unfortunately one without debugging symbols), and FS-UAE refuses to load WB 1.0, loading 1.2 instead. FS-UAE is nice, but it seems to have the Microsoft disease, knowing better than the user what should be done.

Update: the link works now. WB 1.0 crashed while I was taking the screenshot. Oh the memories...

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the Amiga look better as it in colour than to b/w

Ah, fine, if color means professional then ;) I wonder why they chose grey for 2.x/3.x then...

@Itix: yeah, it had 4 colors... 4 very bad chosen colors, but at least that you could see on a bad quality tv set ;)

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@Leo

In my opinion Workbench 1.x look had more personality than grey 2.x theme. It is not beautiful but it is practical.

Here is the page where my screenshot was linked from:
http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/03/operating-system-interface-design-between-1981-2009/

Workbench 1.x had distinctive look to other graphical operating systems at its time (which were mostly monochrome). Interestingly, at later times, when other operating systems were getting more colours Workbench lost some (see 2.x screenshot).

Apparently NextStep icons (style) were copied to modern Workbench styles...

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@itix

the win but be for i like was ms dos 3.1 now back to win 95 ,xp, win 7

now for win should of put in recycle bin win 98,me,vista,and new one win 8 ...

i took dislikeing to win8 touchscreen was not good to use and the mouse did not help to.

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@itix: it was practical, and it had personality indeed. But looking at it now, I find it really amateurish compared with what we had at the time: Mac, Gem,... Especially window widgets.

There were some nice piece of arts though: Monkey Island, FA/18 icons,... and some nice configurations with only four colors.

Later Workbench turned to gray, and we still see its influence in today modern Amiga incarnations (MOS/OS4) although thanks to MUI it's finally fading away in MorphOS. And I think it makes these OS look old unfortunately.

Also, Workbench failed to evolve: there were too many limitations, too slow with many files,... That's why we saw so many filemanagers, and... DOpus that's still in use today :)

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@mcbone

Just be thinking what if bill gate owm Amiga we all be taking about. Other computer may be wins .
It be amiga 8 not win 8 next amiga be nine

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