@Gebrochen

Positive ? Negative ? WTF

I can use MorphOS today.
I can use MorphOS for 90% of my computing needs today.
I might be able to improve that to 99% real soon.
I don't expect it to ever reach real 100%.
I like programming with MorphOS&MUI.
I don't give a FF wether this is for a community in 100s or 10000s.

For the outlook:
Depending on how "MorphOS4.0" will actually be implemented (and on what HW) I can see a slight possibilty of it going 10k users.
Does that bother me ? Look above.

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@Gebrochen

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Was Real3d Announced by the actual creators whon are now known as realsoft 3d???

"Realsoft and Hyperion Entertainment have entered into an agreement to bring Realsoft’s critically acclaimed and highly advanced 3D modelling and rendering package to the Amiga.

http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=0976552871&category=news&start=51

@Gebrochen

Read3D was announced for what? Porting to MorphOS or AmigaOS?

I had contact to them, no chance...

@Rose

interesting link... but I do not think that this real anymore

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @Rose interesting link... but I do not think that this real anymore

True. But like you noticed from this thread it's still considered as a fact that it's coming....

@OlafS25

More recently:

Real3D available for free!

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@Kronos

So basically you are posting for no other reason than to flame - gotcha.

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@djrikki

???

Nice try, but still:


FAIL !

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number6 wrote: @OlafS25 More recently: Real3D available for free! #6

Yup. V3.5 from 1996. Last version done by Realsoft themselves for Amiga.

@Gebrochen

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Was Real3d Announced by the actual creators whon are now known as realsoft 3d??? Or are we talking about different people, if so link?

Actually Vox posted a bit more detail about whom he contacted:
here

Oddly, I was on the phone with them the day of the C bankruptcy.
There was little doubt in my mind where they were headed after that.

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@Kronos
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Positive ? Negative ? WTF I can use MorphOS today. I can use MorphOS for 90% of my computing needs today. I might be able to improve that to 99% real soon. I don't expect it to ever reach real 100%. I like programming with MorphOS&MUI. I don't give a FF wether this is for a community in 100s or 10000s. For the outlook: Depending on how "MorphOS4.0" will actually be implemented (and on what HW) I can see a slight possibilty of it going 10k users. Does that bother me ? Look above.

Hahaha, you like playing games, most users may play with you, have verbal diarea wars, but no thanks.

Atleast you gave an answer, even if it wasnt of an intelligent nature as I had expected from someone like you who can be quiet the talker.

And as for your Morph OS useage, good for you, Im sure many AOS users are able to use their systems the same way. I even know a few that go to our monthly Amiga meetings here in Australia, that dont use anything else at home but their Amiga, inclusive OS4.1, as that is the only type of computers they have.

Does that mean they are over the 90% today comment you made for their computing needs?

I quote my previous question :

Do you have any Positive Optimism at all in you over Amiga Platform? Be it AOS, MOS or AROS?

And I got an answer, still negative I suppose, as you say you couldnt give a FF! Haha

But hey heres my answer : Basket this crappy WAR your trying for and my honesty counts here im sure, even if you deny you werent flaming etc, reality is you swore more than once there, even if in abbreviated form, I dont care if you are an AOS, MOS or AROS user, but to straight away try to start something out of nothing is ridiculous mate.

Show some intellect, I will, by stating I am sorry and apologise for talking to you and disrupting your day / night. Wont happen too soon again.

Cheers

P.S. Atleast Crumb was decent in his posting on the AmigaMAp when at the time he was unable to post his MorphOS system on one of the common Amiga forums!





Cheers

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@Gebrochen

I really don't see YOUR problem (and you obviously have one, wether it's with me or with my posting isn't quite clear).

There are things that can't be done with "Amiga" in any form.
There are things that could be done with "Amiga" but only with much more efford than doing them on Win/Nix/OSX.

If you or others can live without doing these, thats fine for me.

"Positive Optimism" WTF ?? Is that like "the deceased dead" ???

I'm quite positive (one might say optimistic ) that I will be able to continue to use "Amiga" for quite some time to come.

I'm also quite optimistic that things with MorphOS will improve in the coming years.

I just stopped believeing in any kind of grand "Amiga-comback".

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@Kronos

"I just stopped believeing in any kind of grand "Amiga-comback"."

I do not believe in it either.

But after seeing how iOS and Android started from nothing and took Nokia from cell phone monopoly... and how Apple managed to not to die under windows monopoly ... and how Linux and OO succeed going forward ... strange things can happen.

I certainly believe that it is possible to get more users (in thousands) to Amigalike platforms. One thing required would be a good management (or amiga parlament).

@real3D

Hyperion made a deal with realsoft to port latest realsoft to Amiga. But IIRC, Hyperion never had the needed resources for the port and the deal failed. Similar to DMagellan.

HyperionMP around to comment?

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@KimmoK

Dunno bout Real3D, but Magellan failed due to Hyperion not paying what they agreed to .... twice.

Android, Apple etc ....

Both had billions of $.

iOS didn't start from "nothing" it start from Apple's PR and resources.

Android started from building up on Linux.

Where is the starting point for "Amiga" ?

An OS that is still stuck in the 80s ? (technolgy wise)
A few 100 (or 1000s) users ? (or should I say "users"?)

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@Kronos

OK, i will bite since you answered genuinely nice this time,

Sure I never stated Amiga Comeback in my posting there, and I was genuinely just wondering why your posting - it sounded so negative when reading it.............but

MAybe we are both wrong with each others words that are written electronically onto a forum?

You say your optimistic, various others on this forum would disagree, I for one just simply thought you were sounding more negative and on the downer side of things amiga related from a post in this thread.

Im not the type to bother going through a forum like a nerd herd festival hunt to proove anything to you that you would already know about you or of with what he or she said over you, and frankly It doesnt bother me.

Interesting? Even in my signature it states Linux Ultimate Edition, and here you say ["There are things that could be done with "Amiga" but only with much more efford than doing them on Win/Nix/OSX."]

Generally I dont need to print or scan, so I could get away with using only AOS in my home life, but again, that might change in future! (optimistic, maybe?)

Problem with you, Im confused, when Did I state I have a problem with you or your beliefs, even if they dont coincide with my own????

No problem mate, just innocent commentary going on around here, if you take it as a personal attack on you, not my problem if you pick things up the wrong way.

Cheers

P.S. Overall new developers and porters have become more of in recent times, so, thats a positive for all flavours in the end.

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Dunno bout Real3D, but Magellan failed due to Hyperion not paying what they agreed to .... twice.

But the hope didn't end there. GuruMeditation picked it up again in 2005.
That's more or less where it ended.

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number6 wrote: @Kronos Quote: Dunno bout Real3D, but Magellan failed due to Hyperion not paying what they agreed to .... twice. But the hope didn't end there. GuruMeditation picked it up again in 2005. That's more or less where it ended.

Which once again proves sad truth. There are lot of announcements, but very little finished products.

@Rose

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Which once again proves sad truth. There are lot of announcements, but very little finished products.

We're also talking about 2 distinctly different groups of people here.
We could break that down into people like GM, who was involved with "current affairs" at the time.
But there seems to be simulataneously a discussion about "former" big names, so to speak.

I really think people have some wrong ideas on this. If they want to understand the perspective of the so-called "old timers", then oddly, you can just read what they have to say. Many of them are still here and very capable of expressing their remembrances of the past and what would peak their interest again. For example:Adpro founder returned to amiga.org and posted like crazy.
Read one post...and you'll get the wrong impression. Read more and you'll get a better perspective.
All the old hardware guys gone? Sheesh no. They are still around too and peaking in and asking questions. But no one in their right mind who is still sucessful today can consider jumping back in without seeing ROI. Simple as that.

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Like I said he is trolling...

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