@T-J

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In short, nothing more remarkable than when the Julian Calendar 'ticked over' from 999 to 1000, or when our modern Gregorian Calendar went from 1999 to 2000. Although, as I recall both of those were accompanied by a number of predictions of the end of the world as well.

Ah yes. I remember it well. Especially in 1001 when all the people who had given all of their property to the church in order to buy a place at the head of the queue of "the saved". Did they ever look silly when the church refused to return all of the "gifts"

@MikeB
Great thread, though some of the fun has gone out of it now that we can't keep it up on the front page.

@zerohero
Spoilsport!

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@Lou

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Next you'll tell me flying saucers don't exist...

There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics they miss seeing the whole thing. Take South America for example. In South America thousands of people go missing every year. Nobody knows where they go. They just like disappear. But, if you think about it for a minute you realize something. There had to be a time where there was no people. So where'd all these people come from. I'll tell you where - the future! Where'd all these people disappear to? The past. How'd they get there? Flying saucers. Which are really, yeah you go it, time machines.

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@BrianK

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BrianK wrote: @Lou Quote: Next you'll tell me flying saucers don't exist... There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics they miss seeing the whole thing. Take South America for example. In South America thousands of people go missing every year. Nobody knows where they go. They just like disappear. But, if you think about it for a minute you realize something. There had to be a time where there was no people. So where'd all these people come from. I'll tell you where - the future! Where'd all these people disappear to? The past. How'd they get there? Flying saucers. Which are really, yeah you go it, time machines.

Somehow I think you missed the importance of that document...

@Lou

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Next you'll tell me flying saucers don't exist...

Circular wing craft research started in Russia about the same time the Nazi rocket programs. In the USA in the 40s. So certainly flying saucers are known to exist.

@Lou

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Lou wrote: Somehow I think you missed the importance of that document...

Yeah, it prooves that someone at the FBI has a weird sense of humor

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@Kronos

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Kronos wrote: @Lou Quote: Lou wrote: Somehow I think you missed the importance of that document... Yeah, it prooves that someone at the FBI has a weird sense of humor

Or that you like to keep kidding yourselves...

@Lou

So what is it ?

a) the FBI has no problem admitting that the have UFOs and release exactly 1 obscure page on it

b) the FBI wants to keep UFOs secret and release 1 obscure page on it

Doesn't make sense.

c) someone (not the FBI) made that page up to make people believe in UFOs

d) someone (FBI or not FBI) made that page up to have a good laugh at the expense of the UFOnuts

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@Kronos

Reality is a tough pill to swallow, isn't it?

@Lou

Impressive evidence.

One report.
Written by somebody who wasn't there.
Saying that somebody told him about some aliens.

This is what is called hearsay.
Even Judge Judy would laugh this one out of court.

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What's amazing is that even in the fact of credible evidence, people still refuse to accept certain things.

Considering what is happening in the world today, how many co-incidences in a row does it take?

I understand that Roswell 1947 is a tough pill to swallow. However, once you do, then everything else is plausible. That's what scares you.

I swallowed that pill in 1990 when I was 100 feet below a ufo in the company of three other people who also saw it.

You can choose to live in denial. That's fine. Just don't come here and chastise people who choose to accept all the possibilities that make up reality.

@Lou

I believe there to be life elsewhere in the universe.

Do I believe that aliens so are bored, so uttterly and completely bored, that they find entertainment in traveling millions of light years to squash corn fields? No.

@Lou

Oh come on, "U" in "UFO" stands for "unidentified", right? The fact neither you or any of your companions could identify the flying object you saw doesn't make it extraterrestial, does it?

And yes, I've once seen something I could label as UFO. Looked like a damn low-flying F117 with small orange lights at the edges of "wings", made no sound and passed above us so quickly that I would be the only person to notice it (I was the only one that looked up). That said, I don't believe there were Annuaki or Zetas swarming inside.

@BrianK

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BrianK wrote: @Lou I believe there to be life elsewhere in the universe. Do I believe that aliens so are bored, so uttterly and completely bored, that they find entertainment in traveling millions of light years to squash corn fields? No.

I never mentioned cornfields...

@recedent

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recedent wrote: @Lou Oh come on, "U" in "UFO" stands for "unidentified", right? The fact neither you or any of your companions could identify the flying object you saw doesn't make it extraterrestial, does it? And yes, I've once seen something I could label as UFO. Looked like a damn low-flying F117 with small orange lights at the edges of "wings", made no sound and passed above us so quickly that I would be the only person to notice it (I was the only one that looked up). That said, I don't believe there were Annuaki or Zetas swarming inside.

What I saw was a perfect equilatteral triangle with a dome in the dead lower center that illuminated to expose the perfectly solid lower surface.

Not this:


and not this:


This is typical, people who choose not to believe simply make up excuses as to what it is as if the person who actually saw it is an idiot.

There were more circumstances. One of my friends was mentally told to look up and tell us to look up. And sure as poop there it was. But yes, make up an excuse for that. It's what the blind do.

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Quote: BrianK wrote: I believe there to be life elsewhere in the universe. Do I believe that aliens so are bored, so uttterly and completely bored, that they find entertainment in traveling millions of light years to squash corn fields? No. I never mentioned cornfields...

Unidentified flying objects are just that, unidentified. Claiming LGM makes these objects not unidentified.

Remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The 'evidence' part fails greatly when it comes to the existence of LGM. In fact the evidence we have does indicate a conspiracy... The US government pressed stories of aliens to cover up it's own research activities in WWII, is one such good example.

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I believe there to be life elsewhere in the universe. Do I believe that aliens so are bored, so uttterly and completely bored, that they find entertainment in traveling millions of light years to squash corn fields? No.

I'm with you on both points. I find it unbelievable in the extreme that these aliens would invest the huge resources needed to cross the interstellar distances and so on, only to then choose to make themselves known only to people who are never going to be believed. Unless, as in the Hitchhiker's Guide, they do this merely as a kind of prank.

The British Ministry of Defence recently closed its UFO department (one desk officer and a budget of £40,000 per annum, apparently) and released all the documents online. It was very interesting to read just how many UFOs were reported by people who live near airports or airbases walking home from the pub after having perhaps a few too many.

One particularly humorous case was so confusing that a car was sent out to the reporter's location, only to find that the concerned citizen in question was in fact looking at the moon.

Now of course it might be that the aliens choose to fly around exclusively over New Mexico. But I think it unlikely, especially when one considers that New Mexico is home to a number of airbases and flight testing facilities where experimental aircraft are only to be expected.

@T-J

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@Lou

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This is typical, people who choose not to believe simply make up excuses as to what it is as if the person who actually saw it is an idiot.

If you like to call yourself names, then be it. I'm not labelling anyone as idiot, just saying I don't believe in extraterrestial origin of UFO's, period. The aircraft I saw surely wasn't a F117, but it resembled it a bit.

@Lou

I had presented that we have two observations of 1 event. 1 small set of people saw 2 suns. 1 much larger set of people and devices saw 1 sun. What makes you choose that 2 suns are the reality?

@recedent

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recedent wrote: @Lou Quote: This is typical, people who choose not to believe simply make up excuses as to what it is as if the person who actually saw it is an idiot. If you like to call yourself names, then be it. I'm not labelling anyone as idiot, just saying I don't believe in extraterrestial origin of UFO's, period. The aircraft I saw surely wasn't a F117, but it resembled it a bit.

"as if" was key there. What do you call people who come up with ideas contrary to what is observed. Hence if 4 people saw a dog crossing a road and tell a 5th person, who then says it's a cat. That's how people telling me I saw something other than what I saw actually look like to me.

Secondly, how do you explain the telepathy? Oh that's right, ignore details that you can't explain. That always helps when being a skeptic. I think it's the 1st rule actually.