@Darrin

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In other words, you just made it up. Thank you for clarifying that.

You wished.

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@damocles

Well give us the facts then.

Oh, that's right, you can't.

Like I said, you're a nobody, who knows nothing, repeating rumours.

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@eXec

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Building a completely new mbo for a discontinued cpu in a post recession and planning to sell it in large series without any marketing is

Is that a Cusa FAQ thinge?

It is to the point where OUR new motherboard, using a PowerPC SoC processor
designed for desktop computing, aggravates the hell out of you is enjoyable.

Most enjoyable. If there is anything I can do to increase your displeasure
as a spur to more rhetoric, please let me know. A list would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your participation.

P.S. You'll have to post it elsewhere as I won't be coming back to this thread.

@damocles

Great fun when your thread goes to hell. Huh?

Perhaps you should have this one locked and try again later.

@eXec

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eXec wrote: @Fransexy Quote: Fransexy wrote: @eXec [quote] eXec wrote: @TheDaddy [quote] TheDaddy wrote: @eXec How weird...A-Eon announces news about the X1000 and these photos pop up... Whatever. I wish all the best to AEon. But time is not on their side. 2 years and still no X on the market. How much more? another 2 years?

Are you camparing the difficulty of building a new custom motherboard with asembly a common widely avaliable hardaware with a sticker and putting more merit to the latter? you are completly out of the reality
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Building a completely new mbo for a discontinued cpu in a post recession and planning
to sell it in large series without any marketing is [/quote]

A-Eon unlike CUSA have a realistic expectation, and their intentions is not sell large cuantities to not interested markets, their goal is to make small batch(s) to supply a niche market(s), and in the future if it sells well make another revision/new motherboard maybe this time more suitable for be more mainstream.Meantime this board will serve to move the OS fordward to add new modern features like multicore/CPU support.
Do You know? step by step you walk large distances

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A-Eon unlike CUSA have a realistic expectation,

Oh wow - what color is the sky on Bizarro World?

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How many camps will the Amiga break up into? Ainc, AOS, Aros, MOS and CUSA at the moment.. I think I'm missing a few though.

@TheDungeonDelver

A-EON hope to sell a small number of boards to a small number of enthusiasts.

Commodore USA think they are the new Apple.

@Rob

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A-EON hope to sell a small number of boards to a small number of enthusiasts. Commodore USA think they are the new Apple.

Which business plan is a viable one for a profitable business? Selling tens of thousands of systems @ month or selling a hundred over two or so years?

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@vox

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Why a heck then you support CUSA when they ARE NOT continuation of Commodore in any way?

Actually, Microsoft driven user interface is continuation 8bit C= micro-computers i.e. Microsoft Basic.

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@Rob

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Rob wrote: @TheDungeonDelver A-EON hope to sell a small number of boards to a small number of enthusiasts. Commodore USA think they are the new Apple.

Acer has ordered another batch of 80,000 AMD Z-01 APUs i.e. 5.9 watts for Acer Iconia W500 type tablets.

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Rob wrote: A-EON hope to sell a small number of boards to a small number of enthusiasts. Commodore USA think they are the new Apple.

Compared to Aeon, CUSA is the new Apple. If CUSA has .00001% of the market, they're still going to outsell Aeon by a factor of a hundred.

Furthermore, they're aiming high and they're aiming at a viable market (PC users, retro look fans - the Venn diagram crossover is bigger than you think) versus throwing in the towel before anything's released and hiding behind a niche market - which considering the price of the systems, they're born to fail.

So I'll give C= USA the nod on "who has the better business model".

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@TheDungeonDelver

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TheDungeonDelver wrote: So I'll give C= USA the nod on "who has the better business model".

Better for who? Not me.

They are different models. Different markets. Different goals. Diff.........never mind, just
keep bashing away if that makes you happy.

@tommywright

I don't think CUSA will divide the Amiga into any more camps. I don't think they will take any customers that would otherwise have bought a SAM or X1000 (or MorphOS for that matter). Aros is already on stock-pc, so i don't really know what to think about that.

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tommywright wrote: How many camps will the Amiga break up into? Ainc, AOS, Aros, MOS and CUSA at the moment.. I think I'm missing a few though.

@u9

There you go.

Different target market. Completely different manufacturing strategy.

As A-eon can 'order' some number of boards as needed Cusa will need to have or
hope for orders of thousands. Different. Both a gamble.

@Mechanic

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Mechanic wrote: @u9 There you go. Different target market. Completely different manufacturing strategy. As A-eon can 'order' some number of boards as needed Cusa will need to have or hope for orders of thousands. Different. Both a gamble.

Personally I think that C= Amiga will be sold in a quite large series.

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@damocles

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Which business plan is a viable one for a profitable business? Selling tens of thousands of systems @ month or selling a hundred over two or so years?

I doubt that the X1000 is viable but I don't think it's going to make a big loss either.

As for CUSA's tens of thousands of units per month, we'll have to wait and see. Personally I don't see an outmoded form factor as being viable but I could well be wrong.

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@Mechanic

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As A-eon can 'order' some number of boards as needed Cusa will need to have or hope for orders of thousands. Different. Both a gamble.

I agree with that sentiment. It's worth noting that A-EON haven't put so many of their chips on the table so therefore have less to lose than CUSA.

@thread

Just a general comment, but I've read enough on different websites to believe it is valid.
I'm not promoting anything here but information.
You are going to get an entirely different feel for facts as well as a greater pool of knowledge from a greater number of individuals if you take a look at the forums:
http://www.commodore-amiga.org

I won't comment on specifics, since doing so gets one labelled, but it really is worth a look when you don't understand the whole picture as presented by a handful of posts on AW, a.org, etc.

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@Rob

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As for CUSA's tens of thousands of units per month, we'll have to wait and see. Personally I don't see an outmoded form factor as being viable but I could well be wrong.

Based on pre-order sales, it does look like you are wrong, but time will tell over the long haul. I would expect to see other C64x forms coming out over the next 12 or so months plus their Amiga and VIC lines.

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@damocles

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Based on pre-order sales, it does look like you are wrong,

Surely Only to those privy to such information. Are you?

As for this claimed initial surge, that is no guarantee of sustained momentum.

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but time will tell over the long haul.

It's not too often that I agree with you.