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Hypex 
Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 4-Nov-2009 22:51:59
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@thomas

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4.0 on classic Amiga ?


No, 4.1 on my A1!

But it's only with Ext2 FS. Couldn't find anything in the readme about it. It might have been added to the 3rd party IO lib it uses.

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Severin 
Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 4-Nov-2009 23:17:56
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@vox

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More PPC native file systems.
Official OS 4 PFS and Hyperion support (as described in MOS case


No thanks, My experiences with PFS have all been bad, by the time it warns you something is wrong it's too late. SFS gives plenty of warnings so you can copy, format & replace without losing data.

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E-UAE and MOS/OS4 application compatibility layer would be nice ... Amigans - hackers proved it works to some extent and we need all 68k and PPC software there is Why not exchanging licence and having some revenue on both sides (even if both OS`s cost 10 euros more!)


ok for gamers I suppose, not something I would want.

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Even more - having more native GUI`s, file system supports (NTFS? hello ...)


The idea is NOT to have lots of native GUI's to acheive a consistant look and feel. Reaction (gadtools) and MUI are good enough. I suppose there's also cygnix which to me is just a bloated gui.

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68k CPU emulators ... would be nice thing to see


Erm... OS4 already has 2... one in kickstart and petunia

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And yes, Tools Deamon features included in OS4


Turn button mode on in amidock and you have basic toolsdeamon functioonality or use dopus4's iconify to button bank mode.

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Latest OWB and at least one more PPC native browser ...


Erm... No point, OWB would have been updated before any official os updates could be released. Everyone rants and raves about things being native but TBH if you try native AWeb or IBrowse and compare them with the 68k versions there's not much difference in speed. IBrowse does have bug fixes though.

As for things like magellan, it's still a commercial product and not available so tough... 3rd party programs can be added to the contributions section, they WON'T be preinstalled except in some special cases like the cutsom OEM IBrowse.

Amigaamp.. hmmm.. what hassle is it to download and install it yourself? A fully working demo of pagestream could be a long time coming. I have no idea what a ppc native bone is and as for games, os4depot is bulging at the seams with them. they're not hard to get hold of, it's not like we're all in the dial-up age anymore.

Apart from that, unless the updates are supplied on CD then it's just bulking out the downloads and wasting time and bandwidth. it's far better to let people download what they want from os4depot etc. than force them to download a 700mb iso.

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Yep, old ways are cover disks/cds, new ways are adsl etc...

ok. enough of this, I'm going back to my cave for another few months...

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Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 5-Nov-2009 6:17:32
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@Arko

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I remember PFS to be a very good filesystem but is it still good for 2009?

and how does it compare to SFS?



SFS is better and still supported I can't speak for AOS4 in general but on every Amigaoid system I know SFS is recommended for HDs ...



Well, I don't know about the file systems for OS 4.x, but regarding the classic Amiga PFS 3 certainly is the best filesystem.
I'm using it for about 10 years now without any hassle.

In the header you mentioned PFS 3.3.
I only knew about PFS3 up to now, which is what I have.
Where can one get version 3.3?
Is it for classic Amiga OS or for AOS 4.x?

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Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
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just to add it's the grimreaper thats stops it formatting on anything over 4GB I will try the new file system if it gets release for classic.

PFS 3.3 do a search on aminet PFS_5153.LHA

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COBRA 
Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 5-Nov-2009 8:46:24
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@itix

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If you have legal copy of PFS I would not ditch it because it is more reliable than SFS.


I disagree. I've been using SFS (on OS4) since 2003 and I've never had any reliability problems with it. On the other hand I have lost data on PFS3 partitions back in the old days and have seen others with such problems as well. So, at least on OS4, SFS is the better choice in my opinion and has many other advantages like being native, supporting >2GB files, long filenames, etc.

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Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
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Unfortunately I can't speak about OS4 compatiblity, but on 68k PFS3 was very reliable and fast (in opposite to the prior PFS2, which was very bad).

But on PPC OS4, why don't you use SFS? Most people here have experienced it as fast and reliable, too.

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BillE 
Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 5-Nov-2009 10:48:31
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@zErec

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I remember PFS to be a very good filesystem but is it still good for 2009?


It still works. All my ZIP disks that I used with my old A1200 were PFS formatted. I can still use PFS formatted ZIPs with my Amiga One.

I probaly wouldn't try to use it on my hard drives as we have SFS and JXFS now so there would be little point.


Bill.

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Hypex 
Re: Is the filesystem PFS 3.3 a good choice for OS4.1?
Posted on 7-Nov-2009 14:57:43
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@Severin

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Of course it can, I used internet sharing 'out of the box' with betas before the first release of OS4 way back in 2004. I had my A4000 on dial-up with miamidx and my XE connected to it via an x-surf II card.


Then by that description OS4 isn't doing the internet sharing. MiamiDX is. And I've done the same thing on my A1200 when my Mac surfed off it via serial and dial up.

But, I just looked at my emails, and Roadshow didn't send DNS servers at first so my Mac couldn't connect over the serial to my A1. I don't know if I got it working, AFAIR I didn't get it to work. But my Mac did break at one point so that may have been it.

But, say for a similar setup, with the A1 on dialup and another machine connected via serial or Ethernet is it easy to share internet this way? Just be setting up the interfaces and clicking a few bixes in the GUI?

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